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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

Just because its not reliable does not mean that it is not effective. It depends on a lot of factors. Although this is a wikipedia article, it contains some good sources that explain what goes into it. Fact is, you are a lot less likely to conceive while exclusively breastfeeding a young infant.

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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

I never looked at that angle of it before. I have always just thought it was an incredibly sociopathic way to get free labor. The one good unpaid internship I had was only about 50% work, and 50% education - attending meetings with higher-ups, trainings, etc. I truly believe there is a FLSA problem with the proliferation of unpaid internships. BTW, its not just rich parents - I used my student loans during the summer to get through my unpaid internships, and also worked part time to supplement.

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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

Are you Barney, or Robin?

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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

No, they absolutely knew they were related. She sought out her son and began sending him the inappropriate messages. According to the article the son said he knew it was his mother.

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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

Absolutely. There is a narrative that they are completely at the mercy of their urges and absolutely nothing will stop them from offending. I imagine that even just knowing "remission" is possible will give them some hope and help them seek treatment.

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COMMENT Aug 14 '12

I haven't looked into international adoption, but it does seem like there are some crazy requirements. I can think of almost a dozen things about me and my partner that would disqualify us from most agencies. Luckily we don't care if we get an infant (hoping for under 4 though), and my local agency is incredibly open-minded about working with non-traditional situations.

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COMMENT Aug 10 '12

I am totally for this idea. It's not that I don't enjoy poster's stories, because yes they do often help explain a question. But, often times half of the comments are simply responding to the OP's story rather than answering the question. It gets annoying and circle-jerky.

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COMMENT Aug 10 '12

Thank you very much for saying that, it was very sweet and means a lot to me. It has been hard at times dealing with my own feelings on the subject (especially at first) and not being able to talk about it with anybody was tough.

I do think institutionally things are changing a bit, like with your police friend. I think it used to be assumed that most if not all pedophiles acted on their urges. My cousin told me his therapist said that probably only 30-40% of pedophiles molest children, and that the number could be at least cut in half with the right intervention. The therapist said the only people who are very unlikely to be helped by proper treatment are those who also have antisocial personality disorder.

One very good thing is that the new DSM(although flawed in many ways), is revising its definition and treatment parameters for a lot of sexual disorders. For example, they are separating it into prepubescent and early pubescent children - not to say that the latter is better, but they recognize that they are different diagnostically. They are also adding treatment categories, including "in remission". It will be out next year, and I am interested to see how it might change things.

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COMMENT Aug 10 '12

Thanks! I should have elaborated.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

I do too. It's too difficult of a paraphilia to control without assistance, and there is no excuse whatsoever for acting on it. I commented below about my experience with my cousin, if you want to read it. He has never molested a child, but has been in intensive therapy for a few years now because he is attracted to children. As far as I know, I am the only person outside of his therapist who knows about it. The therapist has done some really cool things to help him, like EMDR, besides just talk therapy. I would like to see some sort of comprehensive pre-offender treatment plan that could be widely implemented.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Absolutely. I've had a lot of the same experiences. People just have no filter sometimes and have no idea the effect they have on young girls. Or they know the effect and like it even more.

My viewpoint on the attraction angle has changed in recent years, when my cousin confessed to me while drunk that he is attracted to young girls, like age 8-12. I was completely shocked and would never have guessed it about him. He had never acted on it, but said it was getting harder and harder not to look at CP. I think he was pretty close to suicide because he didn't know what to do. I helped him hook up with a therapist who specialized in paraphilias. But he has been seeing her for two years now and things are a lot better. He still feels the attraction but it doesn't plague him. Being with him through this has been a real eye-opening experience in terms of seeing pedophiles in a different light. He told me recently, very matter-of-factly, that if he ever gets to a point where he feels like he used to, he will just kill himself because there is no way he could ever hurt a child. I am not apologizing for people who act on it, but I think an effort to help people get into treatment proactively could prevent a lot of crime. But people don't seek help because of the shame. And we all lose.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Came here to post this. I don't understand the upvotes on it, either, because almost every single comment is calling the OP out for 1) Posting it in the first place, and 2) Posting what is obviously a picture of a little boy that he knows, since he "found it on his phone". The upvoters must not be commenting... yeesh.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

I dated mostly older guys from the time I was in middle school. But this was partly normal for me because I tended to socialize with those age groups, not just date. (Meaning, when I was 15, most of my friends were 17/18/19, not just my boyfriend). The laws are there to protect vulnerable people, I do think its sad when they are used as weapons against people who don't deserve it. But when it comes down to it, you are the older party, you have to be careful, and you may not know whether or not you are taking advantage of this younger person even if you don't feel like you are.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Good policy.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Agreed. There is prosecutorial discretion in almost every area of law. Whether to prosecute at all, what crime to prosecute, etc. They can even be an advocate on behalf of a defendant when it comes to sentencing. There was a big case in my area years ago with people I knew where an 18-year-old in a consensual relationship with a 15-year-old wound up in jail for something like eight years. Yes, in many circumstances that age difference would be cause for concern. In this particular case, though, it was a genuine loving relationship, but when he turned 18 her parents turned them in.

Long story short, it was highly publicized and they ended up changing the law in my state. Now, the younger one must be at least 15, and the older one cannot be older than 19, and there must be no more than three years age difference. So 15/18 is okay, 16/19 is okay, basically.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Yep. I have no problem with people being attracted to teens, or even, honestly, children. For the vast majority of people who are, it is not something that can be changed. But it should not be lauded, bragged about, and you certainly shouldn't be actually acting on those attractions whatsoever.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Holy crap! He even says pedo pride is the same thing as gay pride. And more... ugh, I need to go shower now.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

He edited the age range after posting the comment...

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

they seriously just called a two year old a slut. :/

FTFY

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Was renting videos from a Blockbuster (this was back in barbarian times) in a suburb of the city I grew up in, to go watch at a friend's house. The manager is eyeballing this black guy the whole time he is ringing us up. I asked if everything was okay, and he says "Every once in awhile we get people from [City] coming in here, just have to make sure they don't steal anything." I said "I am actually from [City]." He said "You don't look it."

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

Didn't witness this, just heard about it. A black friend of mine was out bowling with her family - parents, brothers, a couple of younger cousins, and aunt and uncle. Her uncle got into an argument with the manager of the bowling alley, it got heated (but not physical/violent), he ended up calling the cops. Cops come, haul the whole family outside (no jackets, even for the little ones). My friend is insistent that the children be allowed to get their jackets, or stay inside. Cop calls them an ignorant animal family and throws her and her brother in the squad car threatening to arrest them for disorderly conduct. They ask for her ID, she didn't have her drivers license on her (wasn't driving), so gives them her school ID. When they saw what college she went to they didn't even run her name, just apologized and let her go.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

You do realize that 'no racist' doesn't mean that what you're about to say is not racist, right?

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

You were downvoted... interesting. I wonder if people just thought you were talking about attractiveness. It's a fact that abdominal fat is more dangerous to your health than other types.

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COMMENT Aug 09 '12

She never said she was overweight, just curvy. She described her body type as hourglass (small waist) with big chest/butt.