Interesting. Yeah I’m not trying to discredit the current vaccines. Thankful we have them, just seems like as time passes those infection efficacy numbers continue to drop and it seems like a good opportunity to go for 2.0 to stay ahead, vs waiting for the time when it’s absolutely necessary. Would be nice to hear ahead for once. But I’m also completely uneducated about the subject.

Also just for fun I just did some back of the napkin math to get a more realistic Israel picture.

According to 2019 numbers there were about 9,000,000 people in Israel. So far about 69% of the total population is vaccinated (78% 12+). So far that leaves about 2,790,000 vulnerable.

There have been 962,193 infections in Israel. If I make a crazy assumption and say they were all unvaccinated, that would leave 1,827,807 vulnerable Israelis.

If 5,000 people in Israel were infected every single day for the next year, that’s how long it would take for all of those remaining vulnerable to be infected and gain some modicum of immunity.

Maybe it’s all just a lack of awareness of just how large our global populations are these days. When we hear 78% of adults vaccinated in Israel we almost hear in our minds “that’s it, reached almost everybody, pandemic over”. But even at that high rate in a country with less than 10m people, that leaves a LOT of vulnerable people.

These make sense. If true though, I’m confused as to why we are going for a 3rd V1.0 vaccine as a booster rather than a 2.0 version more targeted to delta?

Totally agree and love this - but trying to reconcile this with the current state of affairs in Israel?

You got this.

I’m no expert but I’ll share what has helped me. I just started Week 6. I remember very clearly what those 5min intervals felt like and it WAS hard. So don’t get discouraged.

1. Focus on your pace - it’s more important for you now to keep going for the full time than it is do it FAST or to hit a certain distance. Whatever that pace is that you can maintain even if it feels slow…do that.

2. Hydrating, quality rest, and solid nutrition are important now. You’re working your body hard, and you can get back to that level of fitness you had before but you’re going to need to fuel yourself and not miss it.

3. Don’t have too much pride to repeat a day or week. This program wasn’t designed for YOU it was just designed in general. Your body is your body. If you need an extra Week 3, do it. Just don’t stop pushing yourself.

Lean management systems are based off of lean manufacturing systems. Many financial services companies are trying to transform management culture to focus on lean process improvement. It’s not an undercover thing.

They do. I do not work for them. I’m an internal consultant. Companies who are implementing lean management systems typically hire internal consultants to deploy the new ways of working for leaders and managers.

I’ve been lucky to work for an enterprise deploying lean management system across the enterprise. My focus is on working with teams to deploy the tools and routines, teaching the value, and moving on to the next team.

I’ll gladly occupy you here so you stop sharing misinformation and trolling elsewhere.

Nope

You’re doing what you can. I’m not a doctor and please know nobody on here can give you any better advice than your doctor. If I was in your shoes it hydrate like hell, take a tylenol for the fever, and keep in tune with what your body is telling you. Including not being ashamed of you feel like you need to go back to the ER.

From my understanding the only time you’d be prescribed z pal or other antibiotics is if you are at risk of or show signs of bacterial pneumonia. The fact that your o2 doesn’t stay low, your heart rhythm is good, and you don’t see signs of bacterial infection is why they aren’t prescribing anything. I’m sorry you’re miserable but thankful you’re truly doing okay. Keep your chin up.

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Thank you

Don’t think about it yet. Just keep pacing yourself. Keep the pace slower than you think you need to. Hydrate, sleep, nourish. If you can get to the point where you can finish the time without quitting, the speed will come later.

I’ve been sitting in a cubicle for 7 years. If I can get there you definitely can. You’ve got this.

Just did this today and made a post. It WAS hard. Focus on getting good sleep, hydrating, making sure you’re taking care of your body. Listen to something in your ears that will help you think about something other than “how much longer?!”. Pace yourself - focus on jogging at a pace that you can maintain, when you catch yourself going faster out of habit, pull yourself back a little to make sure you can make the distance. Fight the mental fight - whatever that is for you.

W5D3 is the first day with no intervals, 5min warmup and cool down, and 20min running. I was nervous, because even the 5min intervals push me to the edge, the 8min interval on W5D2 was killer. But today it was 91° and I went for it. I won’t lie, the second 10min was a mental struggle, I had to really push. My legs were rubber, I have a deviated septum and I was breathing HARD. When I got the “begin your cool down” alert in my ears it was like heaven had descended on me. When I started walking I was dizzy. Disoriented. And I made it.

2.4mi. Not near the 5k yet. But I’m getting after it.

Nope

The vaccines are doing a great job. The increase in transmissibility with the Delta variant means a larger portion of the population will need to gain immunity to slow it down. With that said, the vaccines are reducing hospitalization and mortality quite a bit.

Also I think (and this is from my own armchair knowledge) that there IS good news in the high spike and than plateau in the UK. Here’s what I mean:

The folks in the UK were congregating en masse during Euro 2020. The fact that once they stopped congregating, the spike fell dramatically, means that with a highly vaccinated population there wasn’t enough room for the virus to go from that high number to an exponentially higher number. It fell because of the vaccinated population. Now the UK is open post freedom day, and it was unlikely that cases would just vanish. But the fact that they didn’t just keep skyrocketing seems to be a product of a vaccinated population. Kind of like in Provincetown here in the US - we had an event that caused a spike but then cases fell back down to a smoldering level again.

We aren’t yet where we want to be, but it’s a hell of a lot better than where we were. If the entire population had no immunity in the UK it would have shot to the moon.

UK cases have plateaued. Not exponentially growing right now but they have certainly stopped falling.

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Hoping your grandmother pulls through! Thanks for the context. Not intending to trivialize ANY part of the situation by asking about vaccine status. Sounds like 60% of the confirmed positive cases were unvaccinated, and so far the vaccine is keeping your case mild, your sister’s case (relatively) mild, and your boyfriend from showing symptoms while being close to you. As hard as this is and as crappy as you feel, there are some definite positives here!

I don’t understand why we still haven’t grasped this. It’s like on day one of a surge I’m hearing “cases are up by 200% today but great news, no deaths!” Do people just think once someone tests positive they are either just dropping dead on the spot, and if they don’t then they recover 100%???