• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    fuck that, its not hard to check your luggage before traveling.

    Stop throwing the weight of the US government behind trying to protect assholes.

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      7 months ago

      I travel a lot, both with and without guns. And ammo has a way of ending up in the weirdest little folds of your backpack and clothes.

      • i2ndshenanigans@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        I travel with and without. I have bags specifically for firearms and ammo. That way when I travel somewhere that having just one round of 22lr might be an issue I use a bag that never had my firearm stuff. It eliminates the uncertainty.

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          7 months ago

          Kewl. Till one actually slips by and you are getting 10 years in jail for it.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            poor, poor persecuted gun nuts. why won’t someone think of the gun nuts?! ah, they’re truly the victims.

            lol. go to Caribbean jail

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        7 months ago

        That’s why you should treat guns and ammo with care. Have you never learned to count?

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          7 months ago

          You’re funny. I shot tens of thousands of rounds every month, so no, I do not count individual rounds.

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      7 months ago

      I agree they’re stupid, but these aren’t people with malicious intent, and you want them to spend 10 years in prison? What do you think this solves?

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        I mean, all they had to do was take the least amount of effort possible to ensure their luggage was clean.

        If they couldnt muster the give a fuck to do that, and intentionally went to a country that they know has these laws…Then why should I muster enough of a fuck to wring my hands desperately over the situation their own lack of care and concern created?

        i think this solves the problem of idiots and assholes thinking they can flout rules and get away with it, regardless of its malicious or willful incompetence.

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          No one is asking you to care about them.

          The question is whether or not you honestly think sending these people to prison for 10 years makes any sense. It’s the same thing when some poor black kid gets caught with some weed and goes to jail. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it, and it’s easy to point at their actions and say they were “idiots” for doing drugs and carrying it around them, and that they were “flouting the rules” by having a controlled substance. But I also know an injustice when I see one.

          And there is precisely zero indication that these people are “flouting the rules.” This would actually more likely apply more to the kid with some pot, because they know it’s against the law and they likely know they have it on them. Why would you bring a handful of ammo into a country on vacation with no gun or anything? Hell, even if you had a gun, a few rounds isn’t going to do much.

          You’re trying to paint it in the worst possible light. Slow down, take a breath, and think about this rationally and objectively for a second. Does this really solve a problem? Is this a good thing for our society? At least one of these people is a parent, do you really think it’s great they lose their parent for 10+ years because of two bullets accidentally left in a bag? I just can’t fathom how anyone sees any justice in this. There’s no requirement that you think so vengefully.

          • Aux@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            It doesn’t matter who thinks what. There’s a law and it was broken, off you go to jail.

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              7 months ago

              Good thing all laws are ethical, moral and make sense. I imagine everybody on lemmy will agree that laws are the best thing ever that they never break.

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                7 months ago

                Having weapons or ammo on you as a civilian is 100% unethical and immoral.

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    7 months ago

    Yeah, no.

    It seems that these Americans have discovered that they can’t just ignore the rule of law in other countries.

    Let them deal with the consequences. Let them lose that American exceptionalism.

    Nobody gets a free pass for breaking laws in America, so these Americans shouldn’t get a free pass for breaking laws in other countries.

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      7 months ago

      Loose ammo can creep into all kinds of nooks when a box spills open. I’ve found rounds tucked into the fold of a range bag years after the spill.

      It’s exactly why my range bags and my travel bags nexer mix.

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        Are we talking about gummy bears or explosives?

        If you let ammo lose around the house, you have MUCH bigger problems than travelling

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          Somebody goes on a hunting trip. Among other things they pack ammunition. The cardboard box of ammo breaks open and 100 rounds spill all over the inside of their bag. A year later they go on a different trip and bring the same bag with them, and there’s a loose round in the folds of the bag they don’t know about, but the dog sniffs it out.

          That’s why I have separate bags and cases specifically for traveling with ammunition.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            honestly they should be securing their fucking ammo better. cardboard boxes aren’t meant for travel. the packaging it’s sold in isn’t meant to stand up to abuse. stop pouring casings around your luggage and you’ll have an easier time with this.

  • stoly@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    How about the governors suggest that their residents don’t travel internationally with ammunition?

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        https://nypost.com/2024/05/08/world-news/bryan-hagerich-dad-facing-turks-and-caicos-prison-time-for-ammo-charge-says-law-has-unintended-consequences/

        they admit to it.

        Ryan Watson, 40, of Oklahoma, a father of two who was most recently arrested for unknowingly having ammo in his bag on April 12, remains on the island. Both men previously told Fox News Digital that they had the ammo in their bags from prior hunting trips.

        Michael Lee Evans, 72, pleaded guilty to having ammunition in his bag on April 24, according to local news outlet the Turks & Caicos Sun. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 18.

        why are you fabricating bullshit?

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          I’m not fabricating anything. I’m skeptical that a bunch of irresponsible gun nuts keep getting caught in a nation no irresponsible gun nut has ever heard of, while somehow avoiding capture everywhere else.

          Its also strange to me that people on a site all about ACAB when it comes to their own nations are not throwing that skepticism to a nation they also have likely never heard of.