• juergen@feddit.deOP
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    8 months ago

    I think i am hating AI this much is also due to the fact that we as humanity have big troubles fixing the climate catastrophe. And not only does AI in 99% not contribute meaningful things towards this huge challenge, rather it accelerates the problem with its huge energy needs. Needs which i call “waste” compared to the much more important problem of solving climate catastrophe.

    It is the same reason i hate bitcoin.

    This onion article captures my emotion much better than anything anybody has said in recent years. Because it expresses my Hate towards Managers which much power, much money - who could do lots of great things to society by being ousted. Those managers won’t listen to any arguments i could give, nor would they ever see my argument. They care only about money and greed. By not listing facts this onion article is much more to the point.

    It is glorious satire, loving it.

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      8 months ago

      bitcoin never had a use other than “will become valuable?”

      many (myself included) believe this technology will probably be the only one that will develop fast enough to actually help with the climate crisis.

      optimizing research and academia as well as environmental issues through information processing. people are excitedly talking about automated proof-checking and context finders that can sift through hundred of papers while you check your coffee. this stuff is good for science and science is good for environmentalism. maybe go after the politicians and companies that are not possibly going to be a benefit in the struggle against environmental collapse.

      why do people keep relating it to bitcoin? because it uses GPUs? that’s literally the only connection.

      somehow people have associated it with crypto and NFTs as if they are even mildly related. perhaps because those things are easier to hate, so why not associate them.

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        I think this is the wrong direction of trying to solve the climate catastrophe - as long as Big companies continue their egoistical greed for money, climate catastrophe will accelerate. As those big companies won’t choose inconvenient but necessary solutions, they have to be forced by the state. If money is even a small amount of motivation, it is greenwashing.

        We have to kill capitalism. This is the only solution which lets society focus on society instead of money.

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          that’s definitely the best bet, although i feel AI tools being used by the people who actually want to fix the environment are going to have more success than those asking the people in power to change the system or themselves.

          although if you have ideas on that front i’m all for it.

          i just don’t believe the anti-AI fanti-nerdAI-bro fad is really helping… anyone, in any way.

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        We already have at least a century of research telling us that burning fossil fuels leads to climate change. What’s AI going to do at this point?

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          give us a way to fix the issue without relying on the idiots at the top being decent human beings.

          if you can fix that issue then we wouldn’t have so much of a problem.

          i’d expect AI to help through information processing for research and engineering. current AI tools are already useful to many as co-pilot tools. not everyone is creative enough to get use out of AI, but we are moving towards being able to dictate and gesture in natural language to optimize some things that may have taken a lot more time. it’s also valuable for certain efforts in optimization and engineering. does everyone hate alphafold now too?

          i think a lot of the AI hate right now is from the fact that it takes thought and creative use to get the most out of available tools. as we all learned, if it isn’t already “AGI” it’s 100% useless for everything forever.