Didn’t read this article, but the pregnancy test doom was “just” a microcontroller with oled display shoehorned inside pregnancy test case. So, if that counts then you could make a rock or concrete slab to play doom.
The original challenge is to get doom running on random devices with their own hardware. If that wasn’t the case I could just duct tape a laptop to a stick and claim that the stick is running doom.
That’s some serious gatekeeping lmao, I thought we were past that. Having a high level layer makes it easier to run custom code yes, but gaining access to that layer is the definition of hardware hacking. Not breaking the original functionality (or in this case expanding on it) is still impressive and encapsulates the original spirit of ‘you can run Doom on anything’ perfectly.
Personally I didn’t think the pregnancy test one really counted, either, but I’m with you on this one. This isn’t just “I put Doom on a sex toy,” but “I put Doom on a sex toy and used game events to trigger its functionality,” which is a level above.
Also looking at the pregnancy test one now I might change my mind. They did use a different microcontroller and screen, but the pregnancy test already had a microcontroller inside it; it just wasn’t programmable. If the replacement microcontroller and screen had the same specs as the old one, it’s more than fair to call that a win IMO. At that point, it’s the same hardware, after all.
How is pregnancy test running doom if there’s nothing else but the plastic casing remaining of it and the ‘running doom’ part doesn’t have a single part from the original hardware? On this case it’s at least using the original display and buttons (I assume) while keeping the original hardware in place for ‘kill indicator’, but that toy itself isn’t running doom either.
I dont keep any gates, but if it’s enough that a case remains from the original hardware you can get anything bigger than your fist to run doom by ripping the guts of original out and replacing it with a raspbery pi. And in that case the only ‘hardware hacking’ is the hot glue keeping the thing together.
If you replace all the internals it’s not the same, I get your point. But not every Doom-run is like that. These days they run some kind of busybox on any smart device, so technically any smart device could run doom. But the way they do it is still incredibly interesting.
These days they run some kind of busybox on any smart device, so technically any smart device could run doom.
That’s true, but I don’t think it’s the same to shove in attiny/arduino/whatever in place of original motherboard/cpu and building your own ‘doom-machine’ with off-the shelf parts, specially if you replace/recreate user interface too. The masturbator on the post link is obviously a different thing, even if it’s using a separate hardware to actually run doom there’s some hacking involved to get the toy to ‘fire’ based on game events, but even then the toy itself doesn’t run doom.
The better, but less clickbaity, title would be ‘I hacked my sex toy to respond into game events’ or something like that. And that on itself is a interesting enough topic to go with, regardless if it runs doom or not. And as a side note, I bet there’s people who would pay actual money to get a hold of that kind of gadget. Actually, I’m surprised if there isn’t any on the market already which would tap into force feedback commands from directX or something to provide ‘haptic feedback’ with a toy like this.
Didn’t read this article, but the pregnancy test doom was “just” a microcontroller with oled display shoehorned inside pregnancy test case. So, if that counts then you could make a rock or concrete slab to play doom.
Yeah, this isn’t a sex toy running Doom either. Same thing happened here.
You just described any smart device out there, why wouldn’t it count?
The original challenge is to get doom running on random devices with their own hardware. If that wasn’t the case I could just duct tape a laptop to a stick and claim that the stick is running doom.
That’s some serious gatekeeping lmao, I thought we were past that. Having a high level layer makes it easier to run custom code yes, but gaining access to that layer is the definition of hardware hacking. Not breaking the original functionality (or in this case expanding on it) is still impressive and encapsulates the original spirit of ‘you can run Doom on anything’ perfectly.
Personally I didn’t think the pregnancy test one really counted, either, but I’m with you on this one. This isn’t just “I put Doom on a sex toy,” but “I put Doom on a sex toy and used game events to trigger its functionality,” which is a level above.
Also looking at the pregnancy test one now I might change my mind. They did use a different microcontroller and screen, but the pregnancy test already had a microcontroller inside it; it just wasn’t programmable. If the replacement microcontroller and screen had the same specs as the old one, it’s more than fair to call that a win IMO. At that point, it’s the same hardware, after all.
Yeah I haven’t seen the pregnancy test one, can’t really claim it’s the test running it when it’s not. Definitely agree with your point as well.
Except the original pregnancy test screen would have been something like a 2 or 3 segment LCD. They don’t need to display anything but yes or no.
Ah, good point. Apparently it shows 4 different things: https://twitter.com/foone/status/1301718864573554689
How is pregnancy test running doom if there’s nothing else but the plastic casing remaining of it and the ‘running doom’ part doesn’t have a single part from the original hardware? On this case it’s at least using the original display and buttons (I assume) while keeping the original hardware in place for ‘kill indicator’, but that toy itself isn’t running doom either.
I dont keep any gates, but if it’s enough that a case remains from the original hardware you can get anything bigger than your fist to run doom by ripping the guts of original out and replacing it with a raspbery pi. And in that case the only ‘hardware hacking’ is the hot glue keeping the thing together.
If you replace all the internals it’s not the same, I get your point. But not every Doom-run is like that. These days they run some kind of busybox on any smart device, so technically any smart device could run doom. But the way they do it is still incredibly interesting.
That’s true, but I don’t think it’s the same to shove in attiny/arduino/whatever in place of original motherboard/cpu and building your own ‘doom-machine’ with off-the shelf parts, specially if you replace/recreate user interface too. The masturbator on the post link is obviously a different thing, even if it’s using a separate hardware to actually run doom there’s some hacking involved to get the toy to ‘fire’ based on game events, but even then the toy itself doesn’t run doom.
The better, but less clickbaity, title would be ‘I hacked my sex toy to respond into game events’ or something like that. And that on itself is a interesting enough topic to go with, regardless if it runs doom or not. And as a side note, I bet there’s people who would pay actual money to get a hold of that kind of gadget. Actually, I’m surprised if there isn’t any on the market already which would tap into force feedback commands from directX or something to provide ‘haptic feedback’ with a toy like this.