IMO, The US has crumbling infrastructure, corrupt government, dangerous cities, and a lot of homelessness, among so many other problems. Hell, millions of people in the US don’t even have power right now.

What’s the difference?

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    The US usually ranks 25-50 on world corruption indices. Third world countries rank 100-200.

    That would mean that the US is more corrupt. I’m pretty sure that’s not what you meant, so I’m just adding this to help.

    I don’t know if it’s a language thing or a regional thing (or just a regular mistake), but “rank” usually means that 1 is the most, 2 is the second most, and 100th would be less corrupt than 1, 2, etc.

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      Interesting, I didn’t know that. I just remember my country being at the bottom that’s why I said it that way.

      I just looked it up, Corruption Perceptions Index: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023 places most corrupt at the bottom. But I think you are right because corruption ranking should have the most corrupt on the top. I.e you are 1st at corruption

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        You’re right, they’ve ordered it that way, but they’ve specified that their scale is…

        [scored] on a scale of 0 (highly corrupt) to 100 (very clean)

        So you weren’t wrong about what you read.

        But without that context there, being “in the top ten of a corruption ranking” would usually mean the country is very corrupt, haha

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          I think that these studies are very flawed, speaking as someone who lives in a 3rd world country… I’ll take a wild guess and say that the main indicator or at least one of the main indicators is the number of incidents where government officials were exposed of doing something illegal or unethical…

          If that’s the case they’ll end up with heavily flawed diagrams due to the lack of data and reports coming from these corrupt nations

          speaking from life experience now, you can’t tell me that in the US for example, you can crtisize a certain party, and your punishment is going to be some accusations or a lawsuit at worse… But here you’ll be kidnapped and erased from existence ( even if you’re a nobody yes, a simple Facebook post is enough )… And then tell me African countries are not that corrupt compared to a secular nation… I’ll just tell you : give me a break

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            Yes, the scale they used was just a bit counter-intuitive.

            It wasn’t a rank from most to least corrupt, it was more of a “corruption score”, where higher numbers means more corrupt. But they ordered it like ranks, so #1 (least corrupt) would be first.

            • Oh, I read this…

              The CPI ranks 180 countries and territories around the globe by their perceived levels of public sector corruption, scoring on a scale of 0 (highly corrupt) to 100 (very clean).

              And it completely threw me off, it makes sense that the most corrupt country is an african country…

              Somalia Rank 180

              I was like… no way Somalia is cleaner than Denmark… lol