• thantik@lemmy.world
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    Yeah pretty much. Im interested in what people know, rather than what they ARE. I don’t care what people are. I don’t care about people. People largely suck. If you’re the type of person who bleats on about actors and actresses and who’s marrying who and who’s doing what… you’re more than braindead, you’re a drain on the living.

    Show me your skills. Show me your hobbies. Show me what you make. Show me your passions, your art, your accomplishments. I don’t give a fuck about you as a thing for me to objectify. I don’t care about your body or your preferences. I care about your intellect and passion.

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      I kind of get what you mean and, while I think the way you’ve worded it is a bit cold and dehumanizing, I’m inclined to agree since I’m much more interested in what people do and how they act than what clothes they wear or whatever label they decide to brand themselves with.

      At the same time… You don’t have to deeply care about how people see themselves in order to value their right to express themselves or be the person they want to be.

      I have friends who transitioned from male to female. I still think of them as the same person and I don’t really care how they dress or what their personal anatomy is like, but I do feel proud and happy for them that they are living their best and working towards being the person they want to be, in the same way that I would feel good about myself if I lost that extra weight or whatever.

      In other words, the clothes people wear, what genitalia they have, or what pronouns they label themselves with may be totally superficial and unimportant, but the happiness and authenticity that comes from living freely and being the person who you want to be are real and, I think, really important.

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        And that seems to be the jumped-to misconception here; that I don’t value people’s right to be the people they want to be. I said that I want people to be treated equally, but the hate I’m sure people had already decided on in the first part of my paragraph already sealed the deal if I was good/bad in their mind.

        People, and the interaction between people seems to be the most common way that information is transferred. I don’t care to stifle anybody, I don’t care to hate on anybody, but I do enjoy lifting them up by educating then. I love when people want to know about something I have experience with. I share that knowledge. That’s what people should do. Share knowledge. Stop grouping things into categories and then discriminating.

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      @thantik

      I know this might blow your mind, but people can be and do multiple things at once.

      I knew an astrophysicist who loved trashy romances. Instead of asserting what you want from the people around you when you interact with them, maybe consider that humans are complex and made up of many stages of evolution that forced us to be interested in the social lives of others. (Sometimes as a preservation instinct; is the friend of my friend going to convince them to withhold food because I’m different? Sometimes as entertainment; is this person I don’t know in a stable romantic raltionship?)

      And as a result, take a moment and recognize that the “I’m respectful of other people’s privacy by not wanting to know about them” angle only works if everyone believes in Live and Let Live. Which is very obviously not the case.

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      If someone’s legal name was Robert, but they told you they go by Rob, would that be the same to you?

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        Why would you assume I wouldn’t call people by what they preferred to be called by?

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          Probably because of your:

          I don’t give a fuck to know anything about anyone. I don’t even want to know your name

          quote.

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      Right because people are just a sum of their accomplishments. And you said you don’t want to know anything about anyone. Now you’re pulling back from that to a different shittily explained opinion

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        You just seem perpetually offended, and now you’re twisting my words. I don’t care about people. I don’t want to know them on a personal level. The only people I care about as persons are my wife and children. I care about their wellbeing, I care about their fears and who they are as individuals. I care that they are well and healthy and how their lives are progressing.

        I don’t care about that from anyone else. So I don’t give a fuck about who anyone else is as a person. I don’t want to know, don’t care, not relevant.