France has recorded nearly 1,250 antisemitic acts since the attack.

Among the long list of recent antisemitic acts, Paris prosecutors are investigating an incident on October 31, when buildings in the city and suburbs were daubed with dozens of Stars of David.

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    Anti-semitism is evil and should be eradicated. So is Islamophobia. Both of these are out in full force and neither is justified no matter how you feel about Israel and Palestine. It doesn’t help that you have politicians feeding into these.

    I’m strongly opposed to Zionism in its present form, but doesn’t mean anyone can cross the line into anti-Semitism. Also, criticizing Zionism is NOT anti-semitism no matter how often the far right tries to claim otherwise.

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      I agree wholeheartedly but as an exmuslim would like to state nothing wrong with islamaphobia. Fear and distrust of religion is sensible and necessary for free thought. Muslimphobia which is discrimination against people identifying with the Islamic faith is not ok.

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        What about Christians in Israel? Is it OK that they get spit on as they leave church?

        What about the Lords Army in Africa, killing people who aren’t Christians?

        What about the Sihk militant group in Canada that blew up that plane in the 90s?

        What about the Buddhist terrorists?

        What about the alien dude in Pikmon tossing them around when he knew some would die?

        Shall I keep doing more what-is?

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          not really my point. pretty sure the gays in the middle-east are terrified of islamic terrorists who want to behead them.

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      Anti-zionism isn’t the same as anti-semitism.

      But the attention and criticism Israel attracts, while other conflicts and far worse governments are largely ignored, does make me raise an eyebrow.

      If you treat someone differently because of their race, it’s hard to see how that’s not racist.

      If you judge governments differently, based on the main ethnicity of the country they represent, that can also be deeply problematic.

      I’m sure people mean well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. People should be more critical of the media they consume and do their research.

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        They are being judged harshly because of their repeated lack of empathy and their willingness to commit genocide in broad daylight, as if it was their right. They are being judged harshly because children corpses becomes their main export every few years. It’s getting even more media attention because our governments are funding said genocide. There’s also the David vs Goliath angle, where the Israel gov looks like a grown man mercilessly beating on a child.

        To imply they are being framed as the bad guys simply because of racism is so far off the mark it’s laughable.

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          Since 2014, roughly 400,000 people have died in Yemen. 85,000 of those are Children. France, the UK and the US are involved in that war.

          Last time I checked, the death toll for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is something like 40,000 since 1948.

          And yet if you go on social or traditional media, you’d think it was the other way around.

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            Currently, Israel is killing civilians and children at a higher rate than Yemen. And yemens population is 16 times that of gaza.

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            The main thing separating both situations is one country has an army of staunch defender ready at a moments notice to hand wave away corpses.

            Do you go into the comment section in articles about Yemen and blame the hate and indignation on racism as well? Why not?

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              Do you go into the comment section in articles about Yemen and blame the hate and indignation on racism as well? Why not?

              I’ve never seen an article about Yemen discussed here on the fediverse.

              Have you?

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                That’s because there is nothing to discuss. Everybody agrees its fucking terrible.

                Why is there always a debate with Israel. What is debatable about making corpses out of children and keeping prison ghettos? Why are you defending them?

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                  I’m not.

                  I’m pointing out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict gets a disproportionate amount of attention, compared to comparable or significantly worse conflicts.

                  That’s because there is nothing to discuss. Everybody agrees its fucking terrible.

                  Do they?

                  Is ignoring something a sign someone cares a lot about a subject?

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                    It gets more attention because the west is directly arming and throwing bombs at Palestinians. Whereas Yemen is a proxy which is a lot more obscure, and the Saudi’s and Iranians are directly responsible for that one. And the west was condemning Saudi quite a lot lately because they supposedly needed to catch up in human rights.

                    Seemingly the west decided it was time to stoop down to Saudi’s level though.

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                    I’m saying the conflict gets more attention because there is a side defending the undefendable.

                    Implying the criticism Israel recieved is because of racism is not only defending them but also rhetoric.

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        It’s not because of their race. It’s because of the geopolitical interest in Israel other countries have.

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        If you judge governments differently, based on the main ethnicity of the country they represent, that can also be deeply problematic.

        I judge Israel more harshly than some other governments because quite frankly, they are meant to be the good guys. Similarly, I judge my own government harshly

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          Why are they supposed to be ‘the good guys’?

          Why are other middle-eastern countries implicitly considered ‘the bad guys’?

          What’s wrong with holding Israel to the same standards as other MENA countries, China, Russia, the US, the world?

          Why do some victims matter more than others?

          Why do some perpetrators get villified more than others?

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            Why are they supposed to be ‘the good guys’?

            This is an emotional reaction on my behalf, but various reasons - historically Israel was formed as a safe place forfor a horribly oppressed people. Historically, their government managed to maintain a separation between religion and the executive powers - the government weren’t religous radicals. Obviously this has been eroded substantially in recent years. Internally, there was decent equality between the sexes and it was a fairly liberal democracy. BUT yes - they treated the Palestinians horribly - I was pretty shocked by the dehuanisaing attitude I came across when I visited on business aboout 30 years ago.

            Why are other middle-eastern countries implicitly considered ‘the bad guys’?
            I’m fine with Islam, but I deeply dislike politico-national Islamist ideology. Now some of this is clearly been driven by the appalling way that the Middle East has been treated/exploited by the West - that’s not enough to excuse the way that they treat women, LBQT, atheists. Not pleasant societies to live in

            What’s wrong with holding Israel to the same standards as other MENA countries, China, Russia, the US, the world?

            Nothing - I would hope that Israel would hold itself to higher standards that some Islamist countries in terms of liberal society, compassion, adhering to basic human rights

            Why do some victims matter more than others?

            They don’t

            Why do some perpetrators get villified more than others?

            You’d have to ask the people doing the villifying.