• interceder270@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Neither side is justified.

    Hamas hiding behind civilians isn’t justification to kill the civilians.

    Edit: he downvoted me in less than a minute, lol. I guess we know where he stands on the bias spectrum.

    He thinks Israel is justified in killing these civilians. Wow.

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      1 year ago

      I’m not talking about the law. Laws change over time.

      I downvoted you because frankly I think that is a dumb and irrelevant thing to say. The world doesn’t work based on your, or mine, or anyone else’s personal sense of justice, nor should it. That’s why international law exists.

      Under international humanitarian law, Hamas using sick people as a human shield is giving the IDF every excuse and legal justification they need to counter-attack the hospitals that they are using to state those attacks. Period.

      I would vastly prefer if Hamas didn’t do that. I would vastly prefer that the IDF didn’t have legal justification for attacking hospitals. But what I prefer doesn’t mean shit.

      But I guess when you can’t argue against the substance of what I’m saying you can only make embarrassing claims about the timing of meaningless internet points.

      Oh well, whatever. Have a good one.

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        1 year ago

        That’s why international law exists.

        Lol, and you completely ignore me saying “Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.”

        If you want to focus on the law, go right on ahead. I don’t even know why you’d bother replying to someone who clearly states they are not focusing on the law telling them what the law says.

        Let’s be real. You’re biased towards Israel so you argue against anything that criticizes it. You don’t want me to say killing civilians is unjust because it’s critical of Israel’s behavior, which you cannot allow.

        Just admit it. You’d come across as more genuine than whatever you’re doing now.

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          Lol, and you completely ignore me saying “Not all laws are just. Not everything just is a law.”

          I don’t disagree or take issue with that part.

          If you want to focus on the law, go right on ahead. I don’t even know why you’d bother replying to someone who clearly states they are not focusing on the law telling them what the law says.

          You responded to me. I responded to you. That’s how conversations work among people who aren’t terminally online.

          I was talking about the law because the law is objective. Whether you personally feel something is justified is subjective and irrelevant. One person’s mind can justify anything. Another person might say that no use of military force is ever justified. While a third person might choose to justify the actions of one side over another based on their ideological alignment or political affiliation.

          You’re biased towards Israel so you argue against anything that criticizes it.

          Do you not see that it’s just as easy for me to baselessly say you’re biased towards Hamas so you argue against anything that Israel does?

          I won’t make that argument because it’s weak and, frankly, more than a little bit petty and embarrassing. You have to be pretty shameless to go there.

          I’m on the side of the innocent, which you would understand if you read the substance of what I’m saying. Anybody who is on the side of the innocent can easily determine that Hamas are shit eating cowardly bitches for fighting from hospitals, and in doing so they are only further hurting the innocent.

          Anyway, you’re boring me with this shit. I’m not an IDF general bombing hospitals, nor am I a Hamas terrorist taking cover behind injured children, so take your pent up frustrations on them instead.