• CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    What about people who need extra room for a child’s car seat (they’re huge nowadays) and also need to carry stuff the way a truck does?

    Edit: I live out in the country and I’m in need of a pickup for carrying loads of stuff. Putting it in the back of my Ford Edge is highly inconvenient as it doesn’t fit in one load and messed up the interior (the sides of the trunk are scratched to hell now.

    And my point was simply that there are entirely legitimate uses for a pickup truck. 98% of people don’t have a legitimate use case, but that didn’t mean no one does.

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      4 months ago

      You live out in the country, you clearly didn’t grow up in the country.

      I grew up in the country, we had a truck with a full sized bed and a bench. You put the baby seat in the middle of the bench, strap it down like you do in the car and a lap belt and you pick up your chicken feed with your kid in the truck. Ain’t rocket science here and you don’t need to have a crew cab and a worthless short bed to do things out there.

      Shit dude, if you’re worried about scratches to your vehicle, maybe you should move back to the suburbs.

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        4 months ago

        This still doesn’t matter make sense. Lots of people have multiple kids and/or a spouse. Manufacturing more vehicles just to please your ego is not the economical or environmentally friendly thing to do.

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          4 months ago

          This doesn’t make any sense. You live out in the country, you’re probably going to need a truck. You aren’t going to haul horse shit, lime, a crap ton of chicken feed, or water for your cistern in a car or even a SUV. But you should be buying a vehicle that actually fits the work being done and if it’s a small truck then buy a small truck and not giant penis extender with no ability to haul a damn thing.

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            4 months ago

            if it’s a small truck then buy a small truck and not giant penis extender with no ability to haul a damn thing.

            Ok, so is this whole discussion a misunderstanding?

            I’m saying “there are valid uses for a truck” and (from what I thought) everyone else is saying “all trucks are bad, you don’t need a truck”.

            But now you’re saying that the discussion is explicitly the exact truck that’s in the photo and small trucks are ok? Is that what you’re saying?

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          3 months ago

          seriously, americans are fucking delusional with what the requirements of life are, 90% of the rest of the world does just fine with regular-sized cars.

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        4 months ago

        I live out in the country. We don’t get garbage pickup. The garbage dump is very close to my child’s daycare. It’s 20 minutes away. It’s open from 8am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday. I either bring the garbage with me when I go to daycare, or I have to schedule time off from work to take out garbage.

        I have a Ford Edge, so no, a minivan wouldn’t work. To be clear, it’s not impossible. But a truck would be 10x more convenient.

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          3 months ago

          how much garbage do you produce on a daily basis that you need a truck to haul it hoo lee

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          4 months ago

          How size of your truck is compared to Lada Granta? Because my grandparents drove it with driver + 3 adults + child me + stuff including garbage from dacha.

          • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Well, for one, I don’t have a truck. Too expensive.

            Second, child care seats in North America were revised recently to be larger so that they can protect children better.

            To put it in context, putting a child seat in my 2013 Jetta makes it so that the front passenger can barely fit. Anyone over 5’ 6" has to srunch their legs to fit.

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              4 months ago

              The Jetta claim is weird because I fit a 6’ adult comfortably in the passenger seat of my GTI with the car seat in the back.

              How big is your car seat?

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          4 months ago

          Thats a reasonable use case for a truck. The majority of hate I have for trucks are for more city based people who claim they totally need it when they maybe move something 2-3 times a year.

          That said, a small trailer could probably handle your garbage behind an SUV or capable car. Although it would still require more parking than the truck so the benefits overall are arguable.

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            4 months ago

            This obviously varies based on where you live, but using a trailer where I’m at incurs a ton of extra costs: *Landfill charges extra when using a trailer to bring your trash. *Tollway charges extra for the trailer *State charges annual property tax on the trailer Granted, I have an ‘04 regular cab Chevy Colorado (before they started making them as huge as half tons of years past), but I’m dreading the day it dies. There are no small pickups available anymore (Santa Few and Maverick’s 4.5’ bed is worthless for my use case).

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              4 months ago

              I think this argument is a losing battle on this community. It’s clear there is no room for nuance or reason.

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        4 months ago

        Well, I can’t shove drywall, leaking smelly garbage, construction scrap, etc into a Ford Edge without seriously messing up the inside. So that kind of way.

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          4 months ago

          Why would you need to shove it IN car, when you can carry it ON car?

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            4 months ago

            What an absolutely bonkers suggestion. Do you legitimately think this solves the problem?

            If someone actually did this, strapped drywall, leaking garbage bags, and other random garbage on top of their vehicle, there would be a post on here so fucking fast calling the driver a moron.

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              3 months ago

              would be over $1000.

              How?

              on my car

              Although maybe your car doesn’t have rack mounts from factory. For lada it’s about 20€ and tightening few bolts.

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              4 months ago

              You can’t make this argument while also stating in other comments that a truck is too expensive.

              • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                I’m not arguing that. You have a fair point.

                But my argument about a use case for a truck isn’t about MY truck (I don’t have one), it was merely about the valid use for owning a truck.

                I’m getting by right now by wrecking the inside of my car (it’s already done). I looked at getting a roof rack, but the quote I got was around $1400. But that only would help with getting new drywall. Not broken up garbage drywall, and wouldn’t help with bags of garbage.