• Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      You may not be aware of this, but assuming someone’s facetiousness is a statement about someone’s trustworthiness and is pretty passive aggressive. I used to do it a lot myself until the fire nation attacked.

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        11 months ago

        You may not be aware of this, but using the term Fire Nation to describe a unitary directorial ecclesiocracy attacking you is offensive to the lumen people of Firetown. I used to use it a lot myself until I drowned inside Wade Ripple.

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      11 months ago

      Well you chose poorly lol ignore if you wish but that’s literally the origin and it’s not cool.

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        11 months ago

        I might agree if it wasn’t such a big joke among the autistic people I know.

        Then again, most of those spastic motherfuckers joke about “sperging out” too, so maybe they’re just assholes.

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          10 months ago

          They can make that joke because they’re the ones making it and they control the usage/boundaries. Just like how my queer family member will sometimes go “dude that was super gay of you” but if someone said that to him that wouldn’t be cool. The dynamics are totally different

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            Eeehhhhhh, I think the key is that it isn’t a universal thing to autistic people. I’m sure there are some that care about it, some that are neutral as well. If it really was something that even simple majority of autistic people objected to, it would be like what you’re talking about.

            But that’s what I’m talking about, it doesn’t seem to be something that the autistic community as a group give two shits about it. I’ve literally never heard any autistic person say that it was inherently a bad thing, and the only objection I’ve heard about 'sperg as a term is from people that object to it being inaccurate.

            Now, if someone is making use of such things to belittle or harass them, then you’ll see some shit go down. It could be a regional thing, I don’t know as many people outside of the tri-county area. It is definitely possible that the fairly rural and relaxed locality means that the people here don’t give a shit, but people in cities, or other states could.

            Point being that no single person has the authority to speak for another group at all, and even someone from that group can only speak for the rest and considered authoritative if that position comes from consensus. I have never seen a consensus that autistic people object to reeee-ing as a group. If there is such a consensus, I withdraw my objection to your objection (lol).

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              10 months ago

              I’m not saying it’s universal. I’m saying it’s not your joke to make - if you have a relationship with somebody it potentially impacts where that is the way y’all banter, then go ahead. But in your day-to-day life with the broader public it doesn’t suddenly give you permission to use ablest language. Intention doesn’t change that.

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                It isn’t ableist, that’s the entire point. For it to be ableist, it has to be either derogatory and/or not acceptable to the form of disability involved. I’m saying that neither of those are the case in this post.

                Unless you’re saying you’re autistic and object on that basis, I frankly don’t know why it bothers you when plenty of people that are autistic absolutely do not care.

                Look, dude, if you roll up on me in public and say you like my cripple stick, unless you’re saying it in a douchey way, I’m not going to be up your ass about it. Why? Because while cripple is a term that some people may use in a douchey way, the word itself isn’t some kind of slur. So, if you aren’t using it as one, why the fuck would anyone care? Hell, if a non cripple started giving you shit, I’d point my fucking cripple stick at them and tell them to fuck off. Jumping in and trying to tell a fucking cripple what is and isn’t acceptable to say to them is ableist.

                That’s essentially what you’re doing. If you’re neurotypical, you do not get to speak for the neurodivergent. That’s what the entire point is. I started out trying to say it a little nicer, but the condescension inherent in making claims for someone else is absurd.

                Are you autistic? If that’s the case, I’ll fuck off and leave you alone. Otherwise, fuck that ableist shit right in the ear, because my crippled ass, and the autistic people I know don’t actually need anyone talking shit on our behalf, we do quite well ourselves.

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                  Dude ffs I am on the spectrum and I am telling you it is an ableist slur. Do I seriously need to say that for you to take this seriously? Care to lecture me further about some thing you clearly do not understand? Want to tell me more about how I don’t understand the thing I’ve lived with my entire life? Want to hide behind people like me that you know while you dismiss me?

                  Exercise some humility and think for three seconds that you might be wrong about something. Unless it is so important to you to be able to use “REEEE” to mock people that you literally can’t consider maybe you don’t get all the dynamics.

                  Jesus Christ why is it so important for you to repeat 4chan bullshit at the expense of people like me? Why can’t you just respect that some people find it deeply offensive?

                  Fuck this and fuck you. I’m done. Don’t bother responding.