Mozilla is ready to get back in the browser ring on mobile with Firefox 120

• Firefox offers better privacy and security than Chrome, with upcoming support for 200 new add-ons. • While Chrome dominates, Firefox gains ground with user-friendly browsing experience and open-source model. • Mozilla’s focus on user privacy and transparency challenges Google’s ad-centric approach, making Firefox a viable alternative.

  • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
    532·
    1 year ago

    I’ve been using Firefox on desktop and mobile exclusively for a number of years now. I will say the experience isn’t perfect but it’s better than using a browser made by a company that is actively hostile to its users.

    It is important to take note that you will experience issues with some websites. For example, https://astro.build/ Try scrolling quickly up and down on this page on Firefox vs Chrome (on mobile).

      • tourist@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        1 year ago

        Same

        Scrolling was a little jittery on both ff and Chrome for me, but the page has a lot of content on it, so I wouldn’t expect it run silky smooth on everything.

        • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          I think because of the JS framework it’s using is causing performance issues. Ironic because the website claims 98/100 performance score - the highest of all those that they tested. It works perfectly smoothly on Chrome for me. A simple page like that should not lag/hitch at all.

        • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It was a tiny bit jittery on the first scroll through the page but not very noticeable and it happened in both browsers anyway. That’s about it. I’m on an Xperia 10 III.

          • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            video is uploaded here

            sorry I wasn’t sure where to upload the video running a pixel 7 pro it’s hard to come across on video but it is there. hitching/jittery/lag on ff, perfectly smooth on chrome

            i’m surprised by the comments, everyone has been having mixed results

              • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Very strange! Everyone who has replied has had a different experience on this website. It’s probably an issue with the website, not Firefox per se. It simply manifests on Firefox for me personally.

            • HerrBeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              I wonder if they aren’t using the “stop and look at image” - trick with css/js. So when you scroll you’re supposed to center on the next image. Also stops the scrolling to center

              • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Could be but I don’t think so in this case. It seems (based on no evidence - purely feel) that there’s some kind of event listener being triggered every time the page scrolls (whether this be touch/scroll event, visible contents, etc idk) and this event listener has different optimisation or performance characteristics depending on the device and rendering engine.

    • vxx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      I’m scrolling an have absolutely no issues. Android 12 and Firefox 120.0b9 (Build #2015985090),

      • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I honestly have no idea of the root cause. Different users are reporting different things. It seems to manifest differently for everyone. At a high level I would say it’s due to the use of a JavaScript framework as a purely static HTML/CSS only site should not be doing this.

    • mmagod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      1 year ago

      exactly this…

      i started out in firefox back in early 2000s… then made the switch to chrome and never looked back…

      im not the biggest google-groupie but for me to make the switch, google really had to f up in my eyes… and they did

      • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        A lot of people have been saying this, some have been saying it lags in chrome, and some have been saying it lags in firefox. I’m interested to know what device you have and perhaps what refresh rate your display runs?

      • teichflamme@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Not OP but one thing I am missing, especially in mobile, is grouping tabs.

        Chrome auto groups your tabs, so if I open 5 Amazon links looking for something they are already sorted.

        For some reason Firefox doesn’t seem to get this feature

      • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Random performance issues

        Menu doesn’t open in landscape mode

        Tab overview page not working consistently - this one is hard to capture right now but what happens is when you have a large amount of tabs open (say over 30), when you hit the tab overview button it doesn’t take you to the currently open tab in the list, instead it takes you to the very top. This is not the normal behaviour. If you open and close it a few times it will randomly work properly 1/10 times.

        • Scolding7300@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Oh on Android I thought mostly for Desktop.

          Thank you for sharing. I experience more issues with mobile equivalent apps than their desktop counterparts

          • stifle867@programming.devEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Sorry for not clarifying. I tried to on other comments but this is also a post about Firefox Android specifically so I sometimes left that part out.