They are literally everywhere. I can’t go any place without being watched. I just want some privacy. The most alarming part is that they put cameras on all entrances and exits so they can know who’s entering or leaving. Why do they need to stalk me as I go about my day? The area I live in is overall pretty safe so I don’t see the justification.
I have also noticed that some people actually feel safe where there are cameras. I get that people can get scared but I don’t think creating a giant network of mass surveillance is the answer.
What is this dystopian future we have marched into.
Then you really don’t want to know about mesh license plate readers.
They allow 24/7 monitoring of all drivers any where in a city … in real time
They’re horrific and apparently invisible to people. Any time I point them out I’ve been called crazy and told I was overreacting. Until driving around Illinois with a coworker when he started to understand the scale of it all. The more I see the more dizzying it becomes. There needs to be regulation for them
Please tell me more about these. A quick search yields individual cameras, but I don’t see exactly what you’re mentioning.
I want to punch people in the throat who say “YOU HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IN A PUBLIC PLACE” because like, yeah, I know, I’d fucking like to though.
In that case why can’t I photograph the cameras? They are in the public after all.
Who has told you that you can’t photograph the cameras?
I adamantly maintain that the US needs an entire movement to enshrine the right to privacy to its citizens in the constitution.
Including medical privacy. The forced birthers can fuck right off about knowing my wife’s menstrual cycle.
I’ve been wondering how far I could get making a pitch for religious freedom from advertising. Should possibly think about it as religious freedom from tracking in general.
my mother has installed cameras in every room of her house except the bathroom. and external cameras. they are also internet connected. I tried to explain to her how these things are not secure and can easily be tapped into but she wouldn’t hear it
Did you encourage her to put them in the bathroom and to install quality microphones everywhere?
I encourage everyone to carry around an internet-connected audio-video listening device on their person at all times. Not only to have calls potentially tapped but also a microphone that can listen at any time and a non-removable battery.
Those are called smart glasses and its the next big thing.
I was thinking the smartphone that I’m typing this from…
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I’m guessing it’s like this everywhere, but in my country, public cameras also have microphones. I feel like we don’t think about that a lot.
i dont know about your country, but in germany its regulated and in public places the footage is only allowed to be stored up to 72 hours
If it helps quell any anxiety, the ring cameras are not made of quality components. A neighbor with a south facing camera said that the camera was there when they moved in, but the lens is so sun damaged that you can’t see anything. It was installed maybe 2 years ago. They said that they only use it as a doorbell now.
As mentioned in another post, a malicious neighbor could blast UV light at the cameras day and night for a while to make the camera mostly ineffectve.
they could also take a hammer to it. Don’t see the point here
I just want to walk naked around my neighborhood at night too.
The cameras wouldn’t see anything different than your neighbors could by standing at their front doors
Don’t let your dreams be dreams.
If you’re lucky, you’ll end up on some voyeur site and then you can sue for tons of money! :D
I saw an article about Chinese EVs being equipped with overly-powerful LiDAR for self driving or something, which meant that in essence, they drive about the places burning out camera sensors. This got me thinking - The human eye takes a lot more energy to damage it than the average ccd chip, and a small cheap laser pointer is way more than enough to wreck one. Would it be possible to get a LiDAR unit and pop it on a remote control car or a drone or something?
There’s a group in London that call themselves the Bladerunners who go around wrecking the ULEZ cameras, they use a few interesting methods, but they’re all a bit too direct, such as sawzalling camera poles down. The LiDAR looks like a better option.
I’d be worried about long term damage to humans. There also is the tinsey tiny issue of it being highly illegal.
The best think I can think of is pointing cameras out to everyone and making a fuss over it.
I have had them in airbnbs i was renting!
Current landlord has one just outside my apartment and it records audio. Fucking creepy
The Airbnb one is definitely illegal in the US.
Depending where you live, if it looks inside your unit at all it’s illegal
I wonder if there is some sort of malicious compliance you could do with cameras. Maybe find a way to trigger the detection alarm without actually breaking any rules.
Some random creep put up a ring camera pointed directly at the bus stop near my house. It’s technically on their property but it’s pointed right at the bus stop it’s creepy as hell. Why can’t they just monitor their own door instead
I was literally in a CAVE the other day and I looked up and saw “under video surveillance”. You can’t even escape it 100 meters under the earth.
Yes it was a privately owned attraction. That’s not an excuse.
privately owned
Nah sorry, conversation ends there.
Cameras on private property don’t affect you. Also, they are never because of the kindness of humanity. They’re always because someone was a bad neighbor/bad tourist/bad human. You can wish all you want for the state to not have you under surveillance - that’s fine. But if you wanna enter private property, you succumb to private rules. And if you don’t wanna do that, you can stay out.
Weird, almost counterintuitive, example. But I get your thought.
A normally inaccessible and poorly lit tourist attraction, like a cave, is a good fit for surveillance for those times when a tourist wanders off or goes against the rules which could be harmful to themselves and others around them.
Having said that, I agree with your thought and that there are a lot of other areas that would be better without surveillance.
At this point nothing u can do but give up. We really should make an open source decentralised tracking system and track and dox literally everyone on the planet. A billion Penopticons in better than one. Let everyone track everyone.
What we’re missing is some sort of ai to do global image recognition and tracking for any Person of Interest. So let’s not invest in ai?
No lets build exactly that make it opensource cause mass outcry/suffering. This would theoreticly lead to demand to implement safeguards against such abuses.
Some cameras can replace your dressed body with a naked body. It’s not something I just made up. Wink 😉.
I feel the same,
to battle it I drive with my sun visors down,
all the time, even when it’s dark.I never voted for these camera’s,
and driving with them down is not illegal,
but they successfully block the sight of most camera’s.Brilliant idea. I’m gonna try that.
Honestly I don’t mind the street cameras as much. Where I am they are less common and only really seen in busy intersections. What bothers me is when everyone and there dog puts up cameras. You see them everywhere from coffeeshops to libraries. You want to stay in a hotel? Cameras everywhere.
Even worse imho is that many private residences now have cameras that record the whole street and other homes. No, they aren’t technically allowed to, but they all do. I have a neighbor across from me who just put up a ring doorbell that fully monitors my entire property (small town lot directly across). They now essentially create records of every time I come and go from my own house. And Amazon, and likely whomever else wants it, has full access to that information.
Not cool. These should be flat out banned. I don’t care if you want to have an overhead camera pointed only on your property, but that’s not what these things do at all.
Are you sure?
I also have a Ring doorbell camera so I know when someone is at the door.
- records on motion, not always
- motion detection has limited range, and Ring has options to tune it to your property line
- wide angle lens gets really poor with distance.
I live in a neighborhood where everything is close together so I tested this out. The camera can see there is a person walking on the other side of the street but not well enough to know who it is, plus it won’t be recorded since that is outside motion detection range
It will record you detectably on my side of the street but I have that mostly configured out. In general it’s not recording you unless you’re on my property l and even if it recorded more, pictures from any distance are extremely poor
Ya, my ring barely recorded cars driving by until I shortened the range. Also, imagine all the alerts if it was recording things 100ft away. Your phone would never stop buzzing.
You could ask your neighbor to take it down. I don’t think that’s a crazy request if the camera makes you want to close all your blinds.
