Fuck off. Russia considers itself at war with the democratic world. It’s long overdue the democratic world responds in the only way Russia recognizes: brute force.
If that means active engagement from NATO or even individual nations like Poland or France, then so be it.
I believe the war Russia is fighting against NATO has so far not killed a single NATO soldier, but thousands of Russians. If this is the war Russia wants to fight with NATO, NATO would be stupid not to keep it going. At this point the Soviet era weapon stockpiles are nearly empty, they need to buy shells from North Korea, the Russian economy is pretty much a full on war economy, which means collapse as soon as the war ends, while Russia debt auction run into serious problems and the sovereign wealth fund is running empty.
The only thing the West needs to do is to keep sending aid to Ukraine for another two years or so. That will kill Putin’s Russia. It might even happen earlier.
The strain on Ukraine is immense though, as the article states. Ukrainian men are told to fight. They’re being bundled into vehicles by military recruiters (it’s often vatniks making this point, but that source is a US-government-funded media company).
I would absolutely like for Russia to withdraw entirely from Ukraine, but surely the human cost needs to be taken into account. I don’t think Ukrainians should be forced to fight. And maybe potential soldiers would be more willing to fight if Western support was better than it currently is - Zelenskyy is always requesting more weapons and the West just drags its feet.
I’m betting my family that we have to stop russia or it will just be worse. I’m also betting like the civilised world for the exact same reason, demilitarise and denuclerise russia or we’ll all be sorry.
Yes it might happen either way. Still not something to gamble lightheartedly. You think in 1914 anyone thought to escalate into a World War over some crown prince being shot in the Balkans?
Escalations always have a risk of running out of control quickly.
It was a mistake not to supply Ukraine with the weapons they needed early on. But as we see now with NK troops, it is considered a major escalation by everyone. Also problem is that at some point war is not about any larger objectives anymore. It boils down to “you killed my comrade, ill kill yours in retaliation”
Fuck off. Russia considers itself at war with the democratic world. It’s long overdue the democratic world responds in the only way Russia recognizes: brute force.
If that means active engagement from NATO or even individual nations like Poland or France, then so be it.
You go first.
I believe the war Russia is fighting against NATO has so far not killed a single NATO soldier, but thousands of Russians. If this is the war Russia wants to fight with NATO, NATO would be stupid not to keep it going. At this point the Soviet era weapon stockpiles are nearly empty, they need to buy shells from North Korea, the Russian economy is pretty much a full on war economy, which means collapse as soon as the war ends, while Russia debt auction run into serious problems and the sovereign wealth fund is running empty.
The only thing the West needs to do is to keep sending aid to Ukraine for another two years or so. That will kill Putin’s Russia. It might even happen earlier.
The strain on Ukraine is immense though, as the article states. Ukrainian men are told to fight. They’re being bundled into vehicles by military recruiters (it’s often vatniks making this point, but that source is a US-government-funded media company).
I would absolutely like for Russia to withdraw entirely from Ukraine, but surely the human cost needs to be taken into account. I don’t think Ukrainians should be forced to fight. And maybe potential soldiers would be more willing to fight if Western support was better than it currently is - Zelenskyy is always requesting more weapons and the West just drags its feet.
It’s possible to fight a modern war without boots on the ground.
Nuke these savages, who needs 'em! Right?!
So, World War 3 gets your vote ?
It would hardly be a world war. Who would be stupid enough to join on the side of Russia?
North Korea is already fighting for them, and they also have Hungary, Serbia and potentially USA if Trump wins.
Would you bet your life and the lifes of anybody you know on it? Because this IS such a bet
I’m betting my family that we have to stop russia or it will just be worse. I’m also betting like the civilised world for the exact same reason, demilitarise and denuclerise russia or we’ll all be sorry.
Well… if THAT is a sentiment shared by enough people the world indeed is doomed.
Russia won’t become any less dangerous even if we were to appease to them.
It would just embolden them.
Doomed. Doomed to live in freedom!
Well… if i remember correctly there is that old saying that “only the dead are really free”…
Maybe some deranged dictator dreamed that quote up.
Nuke these savages, right!? BOOM, denuclerised!
Lol no, break their back and remove the deadly toys is better.
wOrLdWaR 3!
It mught actually happen if we don’t stop Russia.
Yes it might happen either way. Still not something to gamble lightheartedly. You think in 1914 anyone thought to escalate into a World War over some crown prince being shot in the Balkans?
Escalations always have a risk of running out of control quickly.
It was a mistake not to supply Ukraine with the weapons they needed early on. But as we see now with NK troops, it is considered a major escalation by everyone. Also problem is that at some point war is not about any larger objectives anymore. It boils down to “you killed my comrade, ill kill yours in retaliation”
Well well well who is the one escalating? It’s Russia, it’s always Russia all the time. Who’s next?
They will never stop, until they are stopped.