Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

@fediverse #fediverse #defederation

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    175·
    7 months ago

    Not to mention the big reason to defederate isn’t just the subs on an instance.

    It’s users of that but instance getting free reign on posts from other instances to troll or spread hateful bullshit.

    OPs “solution” doesn’t do anything about that, which why they’re wrong and is defederation is better.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        45·
        7 months ago

        That makes even less sense…

        Like, if that’s really what it does, then it’s exactly what defederation is…

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            105·
            7 months ago

            So…

            You want every user of the fediverse to manually opt out of the far right hate instances?

            Alright, fine.

            Make your own instance with that. And if that’s what people want, then they’ll join your instance.

            Problem solved. Super easy.

              • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                95·
                7 months ago

                Sorry, the more you clarify the worse it gets.

                You want instances to use up their server space for shit the vast majority will never even see?

                And admins would have to have it unblocked, otherwise they’re hosting a bunch of shit from problematic instances without knowing what it is. Which, worst case scenario, could have legal ramifications.

                No need to keep clarifying, I was convinced already this is a terrible idea.

                  • toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    8·
                    7 months ago

                    Ah, so you want a ‘hard’ defederation, that works just like it does now, and a ‘soft’ defederation, that users could opt to disable? Interesting.

                    However, as others said already, that would mean that servers now also have to federate with other servers that most users and the mods probably dont see, creating difficult moderation challenges…

    • იႦაႵმყიიႶ@lemmy.world
      221·
      7 months ago

      Define “trollin” that ain’t justa different opinion vs yours because nowadays, y’all just as soft as rotten fruit and bruise just as easily so anything can be slapt with rhe TROLLS label O_O

      like what I just said for example p sure you or someone else is going to say I was trolllyn with my response but I am not :P