• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Mate we were literal children during these events.

    My literal 7 year old niece knows about both the Israel-Hamas War and the Ukrainian War.

    I duno how old you were, but lets say 3 years after the Rodney King riots of 92? So lemme pick a random 1995 event. Were you aware that Israel Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated when you were 7? Something I do remember was the USS Cole bombing. Do you remember that? That happened a bit later, Wikipedia says 12 October 2000.


    The issue isn’t “we were children”. The issue is that research and information was far more difficult back then. Newspapers cost money and required manual reading. (Though I was able to pickup a few Newspapers when I was waiting for a haircut or other such events). We didn’t have online forums (well, ignoring BBS and USENET)… or at least online forums weren’t popular. And internet was very expensive and slow back then. So we didn’t get information anywhere as quickly as children today get information.

    Secondly, it wasn’t “cool” to be politically informed before 9/11. That was just nerd shit back then. 9/11 changed our collective mindsets and everyone became more aware of world events.

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      You literal 7 year old is not 5. Of those events you listed, the Troubles is the only one I was over 4 years to experience the end portion.

      Go ask your 7 year old niece what Bombs Over Baghdad by OutKast is about and see if they don’t guess the War On Terror/OIL.

      That isn’t the issue, by the new millennium, it’s millennials were well and truly getting all our knowledge digitally.

      Honestly you sound more like a Xenial or Gen X’er, because your experiences sound so outdated.

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        You literal 7 year old is not 5. Of those events you listed, the Troubles is the only one I was over 4 years to experience the end portion.

        Okay so you were 7 during the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin and you were 12 during the bombing of the USS Cole and you were 7 during the Oklahoma City Bombing. You were 9 during the US Embassy Bombings (linked to Osama Bin Laden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings).

        We all know children today, even literal 7 year olds, are more informed than we were back then. Like seriously, we couldn’t look up information back then. Its nothing against us as a generation, its everything to do with our technological level.

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          I know 2/3 of those events, I’m also not American and have my own countries events to remember.

          Also I 100% doubt any Zoomer (or anyone else) today will remember 90% of this stuff in 30 years either.

          And by 1995 we already had search engines and could look up information. WebCrawler, Lycos, Alta Vista, Jeeves, Dogpile, Yahoo, etc.

          You seem to think the 90s and 2000s were some technological dark age on par with the 80s.

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            Do you not remember how bad search was before Google?

            It was like being at the library and using that card index system. It was like “welp, hopefully there’s a book someone decided to tag ‘field mice’ because that’s the only way I’m gonna find information about field mice”.

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            Uh huh. Peak AOL was 2002 my dude.

            And with 25-million subscribers, that’s only some ~25% of American-households with AOL back then, at its absolute peak. Internet in general was never a common thing for Americans to get until the Broadband era.


            If you want to talk about the internet in the 90s, be my guest. But any Millennial who lived through that era remembers that the internet was relatively rare. Most people’s exposure was through libraries and maybe schools/university systems.

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      I think this ties back to the original question. Gen Z is way more exposed to social media and therefore world news including propaganda at levels millennials never saw until adulthood. In the 90s you needed to watch the news or read the newspaper to know what was happening and if you missed it you would only know about it if it was broadcasted again. Nowadays we’re bombarded 24/7 with all kinds of news in the same place where you watch funny dog videos.

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        Yup. Its nothing about “better” or “worse”. Its about the technological differences of today’s children vs myself as a child.

        Here’s a memory for yall who are too young to remember how dumb we were in the 90s. On 9/11, bullies were blaming China (and me, being a slanty-eye Asian) for bringing down the Twin Towers. I think people don’t grasp how unfathomably ignorant pre-Internet and pre-9/11 people were. Such a mistake wouldn’t happen today.

        Nothing against those bullies. Everyone was that dumb back then.

        9/11 was a big wakeup moment. Society collectively decided that paying attention to world events was important, and we got smarter. Technology improved as well, so it became easier to look up news events after that. But deep down within our collective psyche was a turning point in foreign-policy mindset. I’m seeing that Gen Z today is far more anxious and worried about world events (both good, and bad, associated with that). The 90s “peaceful” era of my youth was an illusion, it was created by my (and my peer’s) collective ignorance about the world.

        I look at my ignorant Youth vs what GenZ grows up with today, I see pros/cons with both. I think knowing more about the world is a better thing overall though.

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          Where did you live that has people who blamed East Asian people for 9/11?

          The ignorant people here were blaming Indians and other South Asians, and that was the limit of ridiculousness where I grew up