• menas@lemmy.wtf
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    2 days ago

    Sooo what proton will do now if some fascist law ask proton to jail people, or worst ? Please stop to say they have no choice. They choose to make a public organization, and say it is safe. It’s not. Being public, host data for people and activists, and respect imperialist law is not possible. This was a bad solution from the beginning.

    You could say that they say so in their legal term. Nobody read them, and everybody still think proton is top notch on safety. We couldn’t warn every activists that this just marketing. Their is no collective with enough people to be heard.

    Maybe you think that Proton leaders try their best. That not the point. The point is that people are being repressed, and that being critical could diminish their numbers in the futur.

    • Your point is complete and utter bullshit.

      You could say that they say so in their legal term. Nobody read them

      It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that ANYONE hosting an email service, whether it’s a for-profit company or a collective, has to abide by laws and regulations.

      everybody still think proton is top notch on safety

      Their marketing point is that your emails are stored with zero-access encryption, which is true. Only an IP address was disclosed under the 2021 subpoena that you are talking about, something that you can easily avoid by using a VPN or Tor. Proton Mail even offers an official onion service.

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        People are self hosting their emails for themselves, their collective, or their relatives. This a solution to avoid regulations, and keep a low profile. Their is others solutions (such as, not using email, or encrypt email by yourself). You could keep saying that everybody should using VPN (which don’t remove the issue, but move it elsewhere) or we could be less idealist and see what people are actually doing, and why.