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    3 hours ago

    Joke’s on you orange pile of dung! I got me a yearly supply of avocados from Mexico! I could afford 5!

    If I eat them 1 gram per day and I freeze dry them, I should have avocado for life!

  • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 day ago

    The EU has a trade deal with Canada already, perhaps there is a scope for further improvement?

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        19 hours ago

        “Via Greenland” makes no sense. The trouble with Canada-Europe trade is that Canada unfortunately lacks a good port on its east coast (certainly nothing comparable to Vancouver in the west). For the foreseeable future, if the trade dispute with the US drags on, Canada’s best bet is to expand its trade with Asia.

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          3 hours ago

          Most ships can actually go up the St Lawrence to the port of Montreal easily, and even further on the seaway.

          Source: my buddy’s brother is a unionized commercial navigator.

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            15 hours ago

            Good location, limited infrastructure. They’d need to build a full commercial cargo port, and probably expand the oil/gas facility a lot.

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              I was in Halifax for the first time this summer. I guess looking back it’s pretty crowded already. I saw some huge ships and parking lots unloading cars so I guess they’re already busy with that. I’m going to Montreal on March break, I’ll be sure to pay attention to their shipping arrangements. They’re more of a container port I think?

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                4 hours ago

                I live right next to the port of Montréal, so I can provide info if you want. But I know nothing about ports. All I can say is that there’s a lot of containers, big round things (to store oil?), and various industry including sugar, beer, some battery-related chemistry, among other things.

                There’s another port, also close to where I live, that’s actually in another city. But it seems to be a city mostly for industry. It has only a mere 2000 inhabitants, and a lot of industry, especially oil. The city has the uninspiring name of “Montréal-est”.

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                Given current politics, maybe. It’s a big expenditure that could go bankrupt if the current political insanity gets shut down. I think if the government put some guarantees of future support in case that happens it would instantly be a worth while project. Which probably depends on selling it as a national security and resilience issue.

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    22 hours ago

    Damn it Canada! Tit for tat tariffs are not the answer.

    Respond for sure, but now you’re taking money out of your own citizens pockets to spite him. That idiotic.

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      9 hours ago

      Woah man, slow up with all the downvotes. This is a suggestion to think strategically instead of doing a reactionary show to “look strong”. The reactionary show will fuck up small business and the majority of Canadians. Well thought out tariffs and other targeted measures will be more effective.

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      20 hours ago

      Tarrifs are simple, easy, and can be implemented immediately by the Prime Minister alone. All the other things listed in that comment are fine ideas, but require parliment pass laws, which is going to take time since we’re approaching an election. I don’t think it’s appropriate to wait months before even starting the debate in parliment about what we should do.

      There’s also no guarantee any of those ideas would even pass into law. I doubt many politicians are keen on tearing up patent and copyright protection so Canadian companies can rip off American innovations.

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      So what do you suggest should be done instead?

      I must admit that I’m curious if there are any goods from Canada that USA depends on. It could be hilarious if Canada chose to tax EXPORTS of such goods. Increasing US prices even more. Problem is I don’t think there is much to do that on if any at all.
      But an American lumber crisis like 2021 caused by Canadian export taxes undermining the entire US real estate market could be fun. 😋
      Maybe Canada could tax oils exports, as USA despite being the biggest producer in the world, is still dependent on huge oil Imports.

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        19 hours ago

        Going after US tech is an obvious move. Digital services taxes, etc.

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          I feel like Canada being only 1/10th of the US’s population, it doesn’t matter much. It would be much better to hurt them with something fundamental to other parts of the economy, like lumber, oil, parts…

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          21 hours ago

          That post by Merc has a lot of good ideas, when it comes to it, USA is making a lot more money on services, that could be freely copied, while USA is way more dependent on actual goods.
          In such a trade war, I think USA would surely lose.

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      19 hours ago

      I doubt it would ever happen, but they could redistribute the money from those tariffs back to citizens. It would be a net positive for people who choose to get goods made locally or imported from friendly nations.

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        22 hours ago

        Self harm isn’t an effective strategy. Do something that actually hurts the US.

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          20 hours ago

          Selective tariffs that impact exports from swing states without increasing the prices too much is an effective strategy. The EU already used it successfully against the US a few times (basically every republican president needed it as a warning shot)

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            9 hours ago

            YES. Can we listen to this? We do have complications of not being close to other trading partners, but this is a more reasoned approach that has worked.