• eatthecake@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    It’s a 7 minute drive, i practically live in the same suburb. I also work evening shift. Are you going to put on a bus to everywhere for those 250 people who finish work at 230am? Must all of us work and live next door? I try to live as close as possible but you cant ask everyone to do that. A job change shouldnt mean you are required to move house. Its just not feasible for a city of millions to move every time they change jobs. And its not feasible to put on a bus service so me and a couple of others can get home at 230am.

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      11 hours ago

      You’re right, it isn’t feasible to always use a bus, thats why walking, cycling, trams, and light rail should also be used. The biggest problem is density. Low density makes it very difficult to effeciently service, yet many north american zoning and building codes make it very difficult to build any housing that isn’t detached single family homes with minimum parking standards and set backs.

      • Cypher@lemmy.world
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        10 hours ago

        walking, cycling, trams, and light rail

        Ableism much? These options don’t suit a bunch of people.

        • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOP
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          2 hours ago

          As a disabled person, drag is perfectly capable of using all of those options, but can’t drive a car. You’re trying to use drag’s identity as a weapon to make drag’s life worse. Knock it off!

        • Hawke@lemmy.world
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          Ableism much?

          No. There are many more disabilities that prevent operation of a car compared to using a train or tram, so the status quo of car supremacy is far more ableist.

          • Cypher@lemmy.world
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            7 hours ago

            No one said the individual being accommodated had to be the one operating the vehicle.

            • @Cypher @Hawke So if you were to lose your vision or develop epilepsy tomorrow, you would prefer to be dependent on family, friends, or personal servants to drive you everywhere rather than having options of accessible trains and buses and being able to walk to nearby destinations safely?

              • Hawke@lemmy.world
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                4 hours ago

                Not at all. I’m 100% onboard (pun intended) with trains and buses and trams.

                Not sure where you got the idea that I wasn’t.

                  • Hawke@lemmy.world
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                    2 hours ago

                    Ah, thanks. So if I understand right, that was more of a “replying to one person but also wanting to notify another person of the reply” is that it?

              • Cypher@lemmy.world
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                7 hours ago

                I would absolutely prefer a private chauffeur given that I find the general public to be imbecilic disgusting wastes of time and oxygen.

        • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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          10 hours ago

          Many trams and light rail are accessible for various disabilities.

          Cars are also restrictive to people with certain disabilities. The fairest way is having a wide variety of options available, including specialized cars for those who need them. Currently, the car is pretty much the only option in many north american cities, which certainly isn’t the fairest.

            • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.de
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              8 hours ago

              I’m pretty sure people aren’t ignoring cars as an option - the topic of discussion is excessive prevalence of cars, so the discussion is focused on the viability of alternatives.