I don’t troll. At all. What I do is post various comments encouraging a community to not get angry as hell about a change but to make the best out of it. That’s what happened when 196 decided to port over from blahaj.zone to lemmy.world. I made a bunch of fairly long comments that were talking about how people shouldn’t be angry and just leaving toxic comments but fueling a better community, whether that be here or elsewhere. Comments went fairly well and all was fine and left up for a while but a couple of days after being posted they were removed along with everything else that I had posted to that community. The mods list the reason in the modlog for my permanent ban as “trolling”. There are many things I do, but trolling isn’t one of them. Especially when the comment sections are left in a state here showing that I wasn’t trolling.
I went through everything that I did with that community and cannot find a singular thing with the exception of a memory.
I had posted a meme a couple of weeks ago. I don’t remember exactly what it was but I remember a moderator saying on it an hour or two after posting that it should be marked as NSFW. I disagreed with this assessment. I left a comment in response saying that I disagreed that it should be marked and that I would refuse to mark it as NSFW. However, I also respect that it is their community and their rules so I settled for something different. I didn’t add an NSFW tag, I just deleted it wholesale. I didn’t want to add a tag to something that I didn’t feel was applicable and instead of having to sit with that tag on the post, I just deleted the post entirely.
So this only leaves two options from the mods of 196.
Either they banned me for posting comments that were supportive of the community itself and not directly supportive of them or they banned me for deleting a post.
In either case? The moderators of [email protected] are no better than reddit moderators who just lash out for their own ego. Blanket bans for disagreements.
And perhaps unsurprisingly and perfectly fitting of every single accusation that has been levied so far against them and their abusive practices, the last moderator to interact with me was @[email protected].
I find it fucking hysterical how the mods over there are so vehemently Anti-Trump (and should be given the userbase and content) but act no better than someone in his administration.
Edit: I found the post about it being NSFW after going through Moss’ profile but unsurprisingly Moss had to go ahead and suppress my comment there as well. It’s remarkable how much of their profile is just whining about being treated unfairly while they’re going ahead and treating people unfairly. But of course, Moss (being a redditor) had to go ahead and downvote before the removal of the post. Fragile… jesus.
As for how I feel it should be remedied, Moss should step down or at least be removed as a mod on Lemmy.world. They’ve done nothing for the community that hasn’t been insanely divisive as of late. They seem to be remarkably tonedeaf and just openly abusing their position.
Update
@[email protected] went to the community and straight up asked why I was banned. For the record I didn’t ask for this or anything and was completely blindsided when I got a notification in my inbox. But a mod over there did respond with this:
So I’m unbanned from the community because a mod could find no reason that made sense why I was banned.
Tell me how that doesn’t unilaterally prove that Moss was indeed just banning people over petty ass reasons?
PTB for sure.
Honestly I feel like Moss is a bit of a cheat when it comes to that. It’s like a game of house-rigged slots. 9 times out of 10 it’s gonna be PTB.
Didn’t know that mod before the /196 brouhaha tbh. They’re certainly not beating the allegations…
This whole drama started because blahaj admins were banning 196 users they didn’t agree with. It’s not right, but it’s not different on blahaj.
We should be able to tell trolls to fuck off, it shouldn’t be controversial. We should be able to ask for NSFW tags, without harrasing, and not get banned.
All admins and mods are the same. They’re humans who eventually do petty shit with petty power
I wish there was a 196 that Ada or Moss couldn’t touch But there will always be bad internet janitors. It will happen in onehundredninetysix too.
The people who have been getting banned by @[email protected] are instance banned for transphobia or apologia. This is something you shouldn’t leave out or ignore. When a person is banned from an instance they are automatically banned from any communities they have participated in there.
She’s not power-tripping by banning them from the instance, most people banned from blahaj.zone deserve it, and aren’t safe around queer people. Something that is kind of a requirement to participate in communities that are meant to be queer safe spaces.
What about all the people who were banned for not agreeing with the rule changes?
Don’t you think it’s disingenuous to pretend that was transphobia? Isn’t THIS something you should not leave out or ignore?
Power tripping and then pretending like they’re all just bigots is cringe admin behavior, it’s immature, and it’s part of why people don’t want to be on blahaj
Blahaj is not a safe space for anyone, at least not more than anywhere else.
I haven’t banned a single person over 196 changes. I don’t moderate 196 and I haven’t banned anyone from 196 (except as a side effect of banning them from the whole instance).
I don’t know what you think happened, but community or instance banning folk for community specific events is not something I do.
You banned people for not agreeing with you, which caused the 196 exodus, because you banned a disproportionate amount of them, because that was the largest community to protest rules users didn’t agree to.
And yes, if you ban people from an instance then they can’t participate anymore, and when you do that for people saying that the respect trolls rule is stupid it’s overstepping your bounds as a janitor.
Banning people for dissent does not foster a safe community. It forms a little cult where you get to hold the power.
Edit: [email protected] banned me for this post
Thank you for proving my point.
These mods ban all dissent and do not allow anyone to critique their shitty policies. Even if you don’t post in their community.
I think @[email protected] moreso banned you because you are spitting hate throughout this entire post, misrepresenting the truth, and in other cases actively lying. You might as well quit while you’re ahead before you get banned from db0 too. If you don’t get your lemmy.world account entirely banned.
that was the largest community to protest rules users didn’t agree to.
Largest?
196 has always been the biggest community on blahaj
The first one is the one that agreed with Ada and disagreed with the mods. 6k weekly active users.
The two others are the one managed by the power tripping mods who disagreed with Ada. Almost half the activity.
Ironic, considering 196 moving to LW was because Ada is a power tripping admin. I was interacting with Moss after getting banned on Blahaj, and they just… Went silent. Then about a week later, they moved the community. I honestly don’t think they’re an asshole, but I get the feeling the dude doesn’t know how to effectively moderate or talk to community members.
FWIW this is the exact reason I joined the mod team, and Qaz has been doing a good job with calling her out when it happens too.
She seems to have been logged out of Discord for a while now, so there’s not much we can do in terms of holding her feet to the fire. But rest assured we are trying to do something about it.
She seems to have been logged out of Discord for a while now, so there’s not much we can do in terms of holding her feet to the fire. But rest assured we are trying to do something about it.
I’m going to be real, that is the least assuring thing I’ve ever heard. That mods need to hold the lead mods ‘feet to the fire’ and that there’s ‘not much they can do about it’.
/c/[email protected] is far more screwed than I thought it was.
You misread the part you quoted. There is a lot we can do about her mod actions. Even though she’s the lead mod, we can undo her actions.
What there isn’t much we can do about is holding her feet to the fire. It’s hard to do that to someone who isn’t present :p
I don’t know a single thing about the move other than the fact that it was completely left field and offered zero proof of power tripping at the time. It was just Moss saying “Trust us”. No screenshots or detailed conversations or anything. Felt like a hollow accusation at the time. I’ve still not seen proof of Ada being a power tripper. Then again, I haven’t been looking for it.
Edit: Oh you are playing with fire today, huh?
They got mad at Ada for simply going through the mod queue when it would pile up and they didn’t enjoy her enforcing rules for the instance.
They got mad at Ada for banning people because they wouldn’t treat trolls with respect.
How dare they not treat trolls with respect?
Idk why you have such a hate boner for blahaj/ada
Power tripping admins turned me off it
We did offer examples. With screenshots. One of which was in the pinned post, and the ban was against the person you’re replying to.
i am positively tickled at the shining example of all the users to just pick up and move due to shitty moderation, proving the process and idealism behind the fediverse. mods only have the power users as a community allow them to.
For real. We did the exact same thing at [email protected]. Shitty moderators of Risa compounded with outright personal harassment and abuse from the admins of Startrek.website forced my hand in making TenForward. It took a week for everyone to leave Risa and come over to us. I went back to look at Startrek.website earlier today and now it’s effectively a fucking ghost town. Insanely low engagement. Christ, I made a happy birthday post to TenForward 14 hours ago that has 7 times as many upvotes as an Admin post on Startrek.website saying they have a new logo and new emojis that was posted 3 days ago.
Fediverse is wonderful.
So long as fediverse regulars get used to abandoning toxic comms and restarting them in other instances, we’ll have a very good mentality
I’ve done it once. More than enough practice to be able to do it again now if needed lol
Honestly, if we can get the UIs to handle multi-comms, or at least merged comments, then being dispersed to multiple comms wouldn’t be a big issue
One of these days… Lemmy has already come a surprisingly long way. Things will crank out more, even if we end up on some other Lemmy fork.
Indeed. I have so many ideas but I’m limited by the software. Even created threativore to handle things like custom flairs etc, but I’m struggling to find someone to onboard it onto a UI
If I had any fingers in any dev pies I’d start pushing at people for it. I can definitely keep it in mind at the very least. I dunno why or how I talk with so many Lemmy admins but might as well make something out of it lol
Too bad it was moved to lemmy.world.
I know the admins on lemmy.world and had discussions with them ahead of time. It was the better instance for me and for what I was going with for /c/TenForward. Db0 was a close second.