I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.
Yes, sadly, freedom of speech includes freedom of hate speech. The platform would have to rely on its users downvoting or ridiculing the offender rather than outright bans.
See Twitter to see what “free speech absolutism” gets you. The hateful stuff will quickly overrun and take over the platform, chasing decent people away.
I understand what you are trying to say, but Twitter is far from free speech. Twitter is a mob/mind control device. It brings hatred to the forefront. The worst posts thrown right into people’s faces, then they tailor the content to focus the hatred.
One only needs to type the words “Cis Gender” in Twitter to see the censorship, the hatred, and the target all working together.
That’s not free speech, it’s brainwashing. Reddit is just as bad.
Twitter isn’t even remotely pro-free-speech; much like Reddit, they claim to be in order to defend the worst people on the platform, while routinely deleting or banning people for speech they disagree with
That’s correct. But it starts by allowing hate speech. Can you give an example of a single platform that allows it that didn’t become a toxic shithole?
That is the point I was making about Twitter, and it applies to Reddit as well. You have to stop that radicalization socially, they need their hands slapped to know that they are wrong.
Twitter and Reddit dont just let MAGA go crazy, they give them a safe space to do it in. They block us normal people from telling them they are being crazy. He’ll, Reddit let’s them throw people out if they don’t have Conservative flair (like a checkmark).
The institutions are preventing proper social responses to these hateful people.
I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.
Terrible idea. Any site that bans for hate speech would also be a rights violation. If a platform doesn’t share your values, leave it.
Yes, sadly, freedom of speech includes freedom of hate speech. The platform would have to rely on its users downvoting or ridiculing the offender rather than outright bans.
See Twitter to see what “free speech absolutism” gets you. The hateful stuff will quickly overrun and take over the platform, chasing decent people away.
I understand what you are trying to say, but Twitter is far from free speech. Twitter is a mob/mind control device. It brings hatred to the forefront. The worst posts thrown right into people’s faces, then they tailor the content to focus the hatred.
One only needs to type the words “Cis Gender” in Twitter to see the censorship, the hatred, and the target all working together.
That’s not free speech, it’s brainwashing. Reddit is just as bad.
Yes, I know. That’s what always happens if you allow hate speech - it takes over and suppresses dissent.
Twitter isn’t even remotely pro-free-speech; much like Reddit, they claim to be in order to defend the worst people on the platform, while routinely deleting or banning people for speech they disagree with
That’s correct. But it starts by allowing hate speech. Can you give an example of a single platform that allows it that didn’t become a toxic shithole?
Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion even though it’s wrong, and I do think banning you for it is also wrong.
There’s a big difference between having ideas and taking actions. Ideas cannot be allowed to become illegal. Even disgusting ones.
The correct response to unconscionable ideas is social, not institutional.
That is the point I was making about Twitter, and it applies to Reddit as well. You have to stop that radicalization socially, they need their hands slapped to know that they are wrong. Twitter and Reddit dont just let MAGA go crazy, they give them a safe space to do it in. They block us normal people from telling them they are being crazy. He’ll, Reddit let’s them throw people out if they don’t have Conservative flair (like a checkmark).
The institutions are preventing proper social responses to these hateful people.