repost, but it’s been a while

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    “If anyone says they’re a libertarian, I just shrug and leave.” - Atlas In His Own Words

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    Fun etymological fact: very long ago, tyranny used to refer to an autocratic leader that issued a debt jubilee, generally in response to a peasant uprising. A debt jubilee is where most or all debts are declared invalid, a clean debt slate for society, and was generally necessary to keep society functioning. The mini revolution that appointed the tyrant would be short-lived and the prior systen would more or less remain in place, just with cancelled debts.

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      Can you imagine the anguished cries of the parasite classes?

      Truly, it would be music like no other.

      Sure, it won’t solve anything in the long term, but fuck me, a global debt reset would be hilarious. Landlords and banks, zeroed overnight.

      Damn. There’s a thought experiment.

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    Always thought libertarians didn’t watch nearly enough 90s anime. So much of it was evil corporations and Cyberpunk about evil corporations.

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      They saw “Look at all the cool technology capitalism is going to bring us!” instead of “Holy shit capitalism will use this amazing technology to make everything worse”.

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        “Robot arms!”

        Because they lost their limbs in an avoidable industrial mining accident because safety was too expensive.

        “But look at ‘em!”

        Bruh.

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    As the name implies, libertarians want to be free.

    Tyranny.gov rules by law which prohibits what you are allowed to do and thus think, thus limiting freedom.

    Tyranny.com has no laws, just costs, which can be restructured by a single person. Thus the person feels free.

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      You European? This meme’s most likely referring to American Libertarianism, which is described by Ayn Rand and is actually Anarcho-capitalism. Think more ‘Atlas Shrugged’ than anarchism.

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      All libertarians care about is how they can make money and benefit from a situation.

      They don’t care others are getting fucked as long as they can have their tea.

      They don’t actually want a free market, they want a market where they can burrow their tendrils deep into society and suck off as much as they can.

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        Then they are not libertarians but something else. This doesn’t make those people less problematic, though.

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          I dunno. At some point you have to recognize that’s what libertarians are when the overwhelming majority of them fit his description.

          Instead of trying to argue that most libertarians “aren’t true libertarians,” you’d be better off finding a different word to describe what you want to communicate.

          I’m a firm-believer that libertarianism is a way to grift working class people who think they’re better than other working class people.

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            Exactly. It reminds me of every libertarian that called into The Majority Report to debate Sam Seder over the years.

            The callers would all say that they were the true libertarian and all the others weren’t. Then as the debate went on they would spout the same shit as all the other libertarians.

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            To your believes: Welcome to the end of the Sovjet Union.

            We are living in a consumer society because people want to be free without being free. Which interestingly allows ‘libertarians’ to exist because common workers don’t want to be quotation-mark-free libertarians and defend their freedom.

            I like how the development of the word makes your point. The word lost its meaning and became kind of an insult. How can the working class not be grifted when they lose the words to analyze their situation?

            The problem with tyranny.gov is that the ‘libertarians’ of today will become the officers and ministers of tyranny.gov. So instead of calling them ‘libertarians’ we should call them something else or everything will stay the same just with new names.

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    This is the all-time most succinct encapsulation of libertarian thought - giving the government power by voting is tyranny, but random people getting it as a side-effect of money is Freedom.

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      Old enough to remember libertarians who were smugly asserting Social Security caused the Iraq War.

      Now we’re stuck with the libertarians who smugly assert that the Department of Education causes transgender teenagers.

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        Can’t have transgender teens in school, if you you don’t have school! Checkmate atheists, i mean, liberals.

        /s maybe, who knows what those chuds are doing anymore

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          Say goodbye to the old school, ergh, boring - I hate school!

          Say HELLO to the patriot Mcschool of dreams, brought to you in association with Coca-Cola - to ensure your patriot Mcschool dreams have Real magic - providing children with the very best school-like experience and for prices lower than you’d expect.

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            That coupled with this ancient green text and we got a novella series in the works. Too bad its too far fetched to be unimaginable… 🫠

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      Yeah, the last 6 months has really shown what Libertarians are made of. Fucking disgusting hypocrites.

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        They’ve always been that way. Its not surprising the “we need to be more selfish” crew isn’t standing up for anyone

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        Yeah, I think it was Matt Walsh that literally made the argument that the government banning porn is wrong and authoritarian but that porn should be banned by all the private companies.

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      Weak minded people are easy to exploit

      In other words the people supporting this shit are idiots who have no critical thinking skills.

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        Get ready for a full generation of weak minded morons now that the Dept. Of Education is gone. It can always get worse.

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          Eh, we’ve had that generation for awhile now.

          Public schooling has never fostered critical thinking skills.* If it did, students would be asking themselves why they have to work so hard while rich kids don’t.

          Public schooling has been best at rewarding people who are willing to take abuse while punishing those who do not. It’s main purpose is to create effective servants for the ruling class.

          It doesn’t need to be this way, but it is and will stay until we decide to change our culture.

          *I’ve had great teachers that have gone above and beyond to get students thinking about the bigger picture, usually history and literature teachers. I’m thankful to have met them and studied under them. It’s sad seeing how their hands are tied when trying to really educate students about the world around them.

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            Maybe not yet. But that is the ultimate goal. That’s not even a slippery slope fallacy. Poor people don’t need an education, let them start working when old enough for school. These are goals they are working towards little by little. If you don’t know that you are not paying attention. You are just hearing what is said by known liars and believing it for every little step until the goal is met.

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          And it will get worse. It’s been getting worse. Orange dick is just an additional progression of it all.