Because she also drew some fury kink stuff as well. I don’t think that makes a difference as long as it isn’t part of any events or other stuff she does. But that’s not gonna stop the right from working themselves up. If there’s something else she’s done that I don’t know about that’s worse though please someone let me know.
Never said I thought there was something wrong with it. I’m just saying that’s probably what the right wingers are saying. I’m friends with people who are furries and they are wonderful people.
you piqued my interest here so i went looking and found a tumblr post with a good summary:
Labelle has admitted to using a photograph of an actual child for “diaperfur” art, which is a type of fetish pornography (though she has done much to obfuscate this). You should not use people as references for art without their permission; you absolutely should not use children as references for fetish art. If any stage of producing fetish art requires using a child, it shouldn’t be made.
Not sure how her being trans is related to criticism (well, except right-wingers throwing a temper tantrum. But that isn’t criticism). I heavily dislike her due to her - perhaps former(?) - anti-medical viewpoints she also perpetuated in comics. To break it down what her position a few years ago was:
Science about gender and the cause of dysphoria / being trans is bad and must be stopped
Everyone would be happy if society was better (Gender dysphoria = all societies’ fault)
Everyone who argues otherwise was either a TERF, Nazi or bot in her books
Perhaps her extreme viewpoints changed over the years, and I’m sure not to have all the infos available given I haven’t heard about her in a while. But what I saw coming from her a few years ago was just so much crap (Pretty sure I also criticized her for it once, for which she blocked me immediately to then go on a rant). It really pissed me off since it completely undermined efforts to give trans kids (and adults!) the professional help they might need to become both happy and successful (and most importantly themselves).
And in case anyone who reads this thinks this is important for my criticism to be valid or sth: Yes, I am trans myself.
Yeah I just meant all Wikipedia seems to say is basic trans activism that would piss off right wingers but doesn’t really mention much controversy besides the typical right wing buffoonery towards trans folk.
So like …what did she think happens to trans folk if everything is perfect? Y’all just don’t exist anymore? Seems like a strange position to take for a trans person.
I think the general idea of her was that, if society was perfectly accepting, there wouldn’t be any real reason for bigger medical intervention; specifically that there’s no gender dysphoria coming from within / being there by default, but all of it existing because of transphobia. With a perfect society there would be no suffering - still expression, but that’s it. And there should be no science on this whole topic because that’s apparently… well, see the pic. It’s one of the really weird takes from back then I could find.
Like, I understand the fear of this knowledge being used against us and the criticism of our current, overly strict diagnostic system this comic contains (which already gets discussed controversially within the academic community and is partially tied to economic necessities)… but that knowledge could likewise be used for so, so much good. To completely ignore the suffering this condition can cause on its own and putting all of the blame on a society that’s indeed not perfect yet, and even worse, question Enlightenment itself (as in the move towards an educated society and knowledge over religion, that kind)… in my opinion this is, or was, just fear-driven ignorance and not helpful at all.
But I’d like to say it again: If she happened to change her opinions in this regard I’m more than happy to hear about it. The comic OP posted looks more like her opinions are still very extreme though…
What comic artist does this come from? I got a bad feeling…
this look like Sophie labelle and that’s not good.
Why? Wikipedia just says she’s trans.
Because she also drew some fury kink stuff as well. I don’t think that makes a difference as long as it isn’t part of any events or other stuff she does. But that’s not gonna stop the right from working themselves up. If there’s something else she’s done that I don’t know about that’s worse though please someone let me know.
There’s something wrong with furry kink?
It’s not my thing, but my experience in person at scifi cons is that furries are some of the best people in fandom.
Never said I thought there was something wrong with it. I’m just saying that’s probably what the right wingers are saying. I’m friends with people who are furries and they are wonderful people.
you piqued my interest here so i went looking and found a tumblr post with a good summary:
full post: https://www.tumblr.com/deusexlachina/644386684936519680/in-light-of-sophie-labelles-sexual-misconduct
Not sure how her being trans is related to criticism (well, except right-wingers throwing a temper tantrum. But that isn’t criticism). I heavily dislike her due to her - perhaps former(?) - anti-medical viewpoints she also perpetuated in comics. To break it down what her position a few years ago was:
Perhaps her extreme viewpoints changed over the years, and I’m sure not to have all the infos available given I haven’t heard about her in a while. But what I saw coming from her a few years ago was just so much crap (Pretty sure I also criticized her for it once, for which she blocked me immediately to then go on a rant). It really pissed me off since it completely undermined efforts to give trans kids (and adults!) the professional help they might need to become both happy and successful (and most importantly themselves).
And in case anyone who reads this thinks this is important for my criticism to be valid or sth: Yes, I am trans myself.
Yeah I just meant all Wikipedia seems to say is basic trans activism that would piss off right wingers but doesn’t really mention much controversy besides the typical right wing buffoonery towards trans folk.
So like …what did she think happens to trans folk if everything is perfect? Y’all just don’t exist anymore? Seems like a strange position to take for a trans person.
I think the general idea of her was that, if society was perfectly accepting, there wouldn’t be any real reason for bigger medical intervention; specifically that there’s no gender dysphoria coming from within / being there by default, but all of it existing because of transphobia. With a perfect society there would be no suffering - still expression, but that’s it. And there should be no science on this whole topic because that’s apparently… well, see the pic. It’s one of the really weird takes from back then I could find.
Like, I understand the fear of this knowledge being used against us and the criticism of our current, overly strict diagnostic system this comic contains (which already gets discussed controversially within the academic community and is partially tied to economic necessities)… but that knowledge could likewise be used for so, so much good. To completely ignore the suffering this condition can cause on its own and putting all of the blame on a society that’s indeed not perfect yet, and even worse, question Enlightenment itself (as in the move towards an educated society and knowledge over religion, that kind)… in my opinion this is, or was, just fear-driven ignorance and not helpful at all.
But I’d like to say it again: If she happened to change her opinions in this regard I’m more than happy to hear about it. The comic OP posted looks more like her opinions are still very extreme though…
yea but she’s also a quebecker and that’s just not ok /j