• Gina@lemmy.wtf
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    2 days ago

    Primaries exist. Show up and vote for the boring elections too.

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        It’s so fucking wild what liberals will simply refuse to acknowledge happened back in 2020. And it could easily be argued that 2024 was even more blatantly and flagrantly the result of corrupt backroom dealings, as a sitting President was deposed following a poor debate performance, to be replaced unilaterally by party insiders.

        https://theintercept.com/2020/02/04/iowa-caucus-app-shadow-acronym/

        “ACRONYM is an investor in several for-profit companies across the progressive media and technology sectors,” Tharp said. “One of those independent, for-profit companies is Shadow, Inc, which also has other private investors.”

        David Plouffe, a former campaign manager to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential bid who joined Acronym’s board, also distanced himself from the company during an MSNBC panel last night. “I have no knowledge of Shadow,” said Plouffe. “It was news to me.”

        But previous statements and internal Acronym documents suggest that the two companies, which share office space in Denver, Colorado, are deeply intertwined.

        Last year, McGowan, a co-founder of Acronym, wrote on Twitter that she was “so excited to announce @anotheracronym has acquired Groundbase,” a firm that included “their incredible team led by [Gerard Niemira] + are launching Shadow, a new tech company to build smarter infrastructure for campaigns.” McGowan also noted that “With Shadow, we’re building a new model incentivized by adoption over growth.” The acquisition was announced in mid-January of last year.

        In an interview on a related podcast last month, McGowan described Niemira as “the CEO of Shadow, which is the technology company that Acronym is the sole investor in now.”

        What’s more, internal documents from Acronym show a close relationship with Shadow. An internal organizational chart shows digital strategy firm Lockwood Strategy, FWIW Media, and Shadow as part of a unified structure, with Acronym staff involved in the trio’s operations.

        In an all-staff email sent last Friday, an official with Lockwood Strategy reminded team members about “COOL THINGS HAPPENING AROUND ACRONYM.” The list included bullets points such as, “The Iowa caucus is on Monday, and the Shadow team is hard at work,” and “Shadow is working on scaling up VAN integration with Shadow Messaging for some Iowa caucus clients.” (VAN refers to the widely used Democratic voter file technology firm.) Acronym staffers also attended the Shadow staff retreat.

        A person with knowledge of the company’s culture, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of reprisal, shared communications showing that top officials at the company regularly expressed hostility to Sen. Bernie Sanders’s supporters. McGowan is married to Michael Halle, a senior strategist with the Buttigieg campaign. There is no evidence any preference of candidates had any effect on the coding issue that is stalling the Iowa results.

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        Despite what people say online, there are elections every two years. Those centrists in Congress that everyone complains about? Yup. Two year terms in the House. You should be voting twice every two years for national elections alone.

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        And what were the consequences? They all re-won their primaries.

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      That would be cool if they let us pick people from our own ranks, and not people whose turn it is because they held Joe Biden’s golf bag

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      Sure, show up and vote in a primary that was already decided by AIPAC money, if not the various other super PACs that have the power to decide elections. Trying to cause radical change through elections, via a party that is structurally designed from the ground up to suffocate radicalism, is like trying to stop the spread of STDs by hoping everyone stops having sex. You need a different approach. Join a union, if you’re in the US join the PSL, if you can buy a gun and learn how to use it, and get started on building parallel power structures. You won’t elect away climate collapse and fascism, they will be overthrown by force.

      More reasoning on this issue from Lenin

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      You can do useless things that take up very little time all you’d like. Doesn’t bother me.

      But if you want to have political agency you will need to do something real with organizing other people who can take direct action as a bloc.

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        I used to have a friend like you after 2016 who was panicked about Trump. They donated $2700, almost 1/3 of their savings as they aren’t that well off, to Doug Jones in the Special Elections and other politicians in the Midterms of 2018 who swept in to “push back” against Trump. Doug Jones won the senate seat by like 0.001% of the vote. His money may have actually tipped the scales, or at the very least was maximally influential compared to most American political donations. Best case scenario right?

        Guess what. Doug Jones voted with Trump over 85% of the time, including on all the controversial and close measures and appointments of judges. Doug Jones turned around and stabbed all his supporters in the back and turned against unions. This radlib gave up a third of his hard earned nest-egg because he was so scared about fascist Trump taking over that he was nearly willing to jihad but didn’t know where to send that energy to be constructive. So he worked a bunch of OT and then sent it into the closest races during special elections and midterms where people aren’t paying as much attention.

        Now he is a communist. He learned his lesson. I hope you will too one day and break free of the spell the Democrats have over poor sad sacks like both of you.

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            who suggested doing nothing?

            Are you so intellectually impoverished you cannot imagine anything outside the strict binary of “do nothing” and “press button that does nothing”?

            At least pressing the button is doing something cause I’m moving my arm?

            I suggest Lenin to start off with, then finding likeminded people to work with. Turns out it actually is possible for the masses to “do something” very funny.

            Here’s a deal. I’ll press your button and vote blue if you join a communist party and begin organizing (please read Lenin before contributing suggestions to your new comrades though). If trump is such a fascist threat we should do everything we can right? After all, Hitler and the fascists so hated communists the first things they did was lock them up and break the unions with violence. Then it was the communists eventually who saved the world from fascism. Communism has a proven track record defeating fascism and surely “it’s the lesser of two evils” right?

            If we’re being so realistic and pragmatic, why don’t we use historical evidence for how to beat Trump?

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              All I’ve ever heard from communists are theory and a mythical “revolution” that’ll happen any day now. At least the liberals have done something

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                Do you think we think revolutions just… happen? That we aren’t working incredibly hard trying to find allies, build the labor movement, build the indigenous movement, the queer movement, the anti-racist movement? That we’re not trying to bring those struggles together under the same revolutionary banner? I understand you might not see much of this as being related to leftists because socialists and communists often put aside their specific political labels when it’s time to organize, but I guarantee that if you go and do something real (not voting) you’ll immediately start coming across the communists. That’s what a communist does, in practice.

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            “Now he is a communist”

            What part of that sounds like he’s doing nothing? Do you have any clue what communists do? Like, you can go ahead and open What is to be Done and at no point does Lenin say “yes and at this point you wait and do nothing,” feel free to investigate the matter and call me out if I’m wrong.

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      You fool. This is social media where the loudest ignorant voice wins. You should agree with the clowns and farm the upvotes like on Reddit.