This is applicable to Americans in the country and better answered if you actually live in it. The question stands - have you given up on America or do you really think there is a shred of a chance for a turnaround?
I think I have given up on America for it to do anything better for itself. I think the passing general election nailed the final nail in the coffin, that people who voted wrongly, wanted to worsen things in general to appease selfish personal agendas.
I think Americans in general really are set in stone about baking a cake and having it too with their interesting levels of double standards. They complain about big tech having your information, but turn around wanting you to sign a petition that asks for your information. They complain about commercials all year long, but will tune in by the millions for a Super Bowl. They complain about unfair wages, bad workplace environments and shitty bosses but didn’t make so much of a fuss during the pandemic.
There’s just too many things internally wrong with this country, that dampens what hope I ever had for it. Politicians and the “Real Owners” want to keep Americans dumb, complacent, tight and stressed to do anything. But if you give Americans a bit of leverage that could chip at those odds, they shit the fucking bed with their own incompetence.
So what gives, really? Live your life, do the best you can for yourself and those around you. Live another day but god damn fuck the majority of Americans and this country in general.
don’t blame the Americans for where we are friend, that’s what the billionaires want you to do.
turn your attention to the rich and powerful who use vote suppression and information control. theyve worked very hard to crush democracy and also to turn away any blame from themselves.
They’re so successful that even you—one of the oppressed—would blame your poor and powerless brothers and sisters for the actions of the fascist rich who truly rule this land.
you’re right that there’s no future in electoral politics, but the Americans living here are as a rule not the problem. if you look past the foolishness of oligarch media and see how it benefits your real enemy you’ll understand the scope of the problem.
then once you see, turn away from that as well and focus on mutual aid within your own community. is you do that you will soon understand what i mean for yourself.
I explain all of that to those unfortunate manipulated victims of capitalism and they call me a slur and say I’m jealous.
You can absolutely blame the people at some point.
If I tell somebody “that guy’s an obvious con artist, don’t give him money he’s going to scam you. Here’s examples of him doing exactly that to the last 5 people. Heres my degree showing that i have specifically studied for years to be able to identify scams” And then that person calls me a cuck while handing his money to the scam artist, I’m going to blame the person I correctly and explicitly warned for not listening to me for the 500th time in a row.
And then the anger increases as every single one of the hundreds of people enthusiastically lining up to give the scam artist money has the same conversation with me.
And then a group of 50 of them get together and decide it’s my fault because they think I was being condescending as I explained exactly how they are fucking themselves over.
i understand what you mean, but your voice isn’t going to override the professional loudspeakers continuously propagandizing your fellows. right? even if youre the most eloquent and well read person, you don’t have the platform or the power
so when i touched on moving past electoral politics, i meant it. there is simply no point in casting blame on your fellows, full stop. nobody needs to hear another damn explanation, right? people are sick of *empty explanations.
if you want to get people to believe in you then focus on what actually matters, and that’s food on the table and safety. community. the first two things make up the second, and they are rapidlydisappearing from our lives. That vacuum will be filled. focus on being a part of the solution going forward instead of working about why we are here, and people will follow you
Kind of hard to build a community with the people with giant “fuck your feelings” flags on the side of their house.
That’s what I’m saying, maybe you can’t blame people for believing a lie but you can absolutely blame people for being literally antisocial and willfully ignorant.
I’m not going to waste my time and put my friends and family at risk by trying to build a community with people who would call them slurs. Especially because they are, fundamentally, antisocial assholes.
You try to build something with them and then as soon as that “thing” has any value they’ll attack you and try to take it from you. That’s their idea of a smart strong guy, being completely willing to fuck over and lie to other people. It’s why trumps president, and he’s still got north of 90% approval with people who voted for him, which makes up about 70% of my community.
As soon as you had more food then they deemed appropriate, which is going to be basically any amount, they’ll take that using the guns they’ve been hoarding in the hopes of having an excuse to shoot me. Kinda hard to focus on food and security with those people.
Frankly I’m getting pretty tired of the response to me getting upset at fascist to be “yea but you gotta understand they’ve enthusisatically brainwashed themselves because somebody told them it was a trans person’s fault their boss fired him and that seemed like a good point to them”
i never said you have to reach out to those who’d have your head on a platter. i am telling you to focus on mutual aid programs.
community farms, food pantries are a good place to start. find like minded people near you.
im not telling ya to turn chuds into allies, im telling you to focus on doing what you can for the people around you who want the same thing you do.
start small, doing things you can do and joining with existing orgs that are doing good work. build from there. that’s what i mean.
I’m saying there’s like 4 like minded people and we all already know each other. My mom’s retired so she has time to volunteer at the local food pantry. The vast majority of people who come in are chuds who gloat to the volunteers about all the great stuff trumps doing because they know my mom and the other women who volunteer are all liberals.
I’m saying your strategy of not being realistic about how much of an impedance the slack jawwed local contingent is gonna be is flawed.
They’re the one holding us back, as has been true for the entirety of this country, and saying it’s not their fault that they are like this is a fundamental failure in planning.
It sucks but we’ve got to accept “if we just help these people improve their lives they’ll come around” is literally not true. I live in upstate new york surrounded by people that would either freeze or starve to death in the winter if it weren’t for state run organizations. They also all have giant flags on their homes and vehicles making it very clear they want to get rid of those programs because they dont like all the lazy undeserving people taking advantage of the programs that keep them alive.
i feel youre not really hearing me. for a change of pace, would you kindly tell me your strategy?
No, you do not get it.
71+ Million. Yes, 71+ million Americans, decided the country’s fate last year. You are not going to skew this into a whole “blame the billionaires” spin.
Blaming the billionaires and rich yadda yadda even has its stretch. There are countless pieces of evidence that directly say that - yes - it is the people’s fault. It is the American’s fault. You wouldn’t know that because it sounds like you don’t live here and just know.
Trump did everything and I mean everything, to make him look and sound as unappealing as a candidate and retainer for presidency as possible. The guy is a fucking murderer of negligence to over 350,000k Americans during a pandemic. And STILL - Americans willingly picked him.
This reads like you are at the “scratch a lib” phase.
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I don’t know what the fuck that means but if the Dems actually wanted to win, they’d run an actual candidate instead of a girlboss genocider cop.
Of course you jump to ableism when called out.
Well this is one of the most incredibly smug and confidently wrong things I have seen in a while and that is saying something.
But you’re right, it isn’t individual billionaires that are the problem, it isn’t the American people as a whole either though, as has been explained to you above. The problem is the system that allows billionaires to exist. The problem is capitalism and that the US is a genocidal colonizer state. There is no such thing as voting “right” in the US. Perhaps you should actually listen to the people that are explaining this to you who have spent our lives tirelessly studying and working on the ground to address this problem at its root while doing our best to treat the symptoms of this cancer on the earth we call the United States.
i replied to the superior comment. you don’t get nothin but a slap in yer gobb and a hearty fuck you
read my and the other’s messages until you understand them.
You asked a question, created a thread using words that show your ignorance. Now it’s time for you to read those fucking answers.
Do not make this thread suffer your useless mouth, and dont ever waste people’s time askin questions you think you know the answers to, ya reddit assed dweeb.
sheesh.
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being blocked by a commenter like this is a badge of honor to me. chat, i will in fact enjoy it ngl