It only seems unfortunate because of toxic issues and misunderstandings.
In reality, the goals of the two groups are completely aligned. Mental health, acceptance, being treated fairly, and just wanting to be happy and free. A lot of pride is essentially modern feminism, which also encompasses men’s rights in good, healthy ways that are ACTUALLY good for men.
As a flaming neurodivergent queer, I can tell you, that pride and men’s health have so many goals in common, that the Venn Diagram is basically just a single circle.
The toxic issues and misunderstandings are precisely the reason why these months exist in the first place.
While it’s true that they’re generally aligned, that doesn’t mean that they actually gain from sharing the same month. Even queer people haven’t all accepted that this is a fight that needs to be fought together, and many men are afraid to get close to queer movement(s) not even necessarily because they themselves think it’s bad, but because they’re afraid of what, let’s say, less enlightened people will think and do.
I prefer to think of men’s health as pride’s child event: pride has many movements under it, and as long as they don’t go against the spirit and movement of pride, they’re welcome to join.
People will be afraid of anything, for all sorts of real or imagined reasons. I welcome them in peace with arms wide open, for all those that are willing to try in good faith are welcome to seek peace and a better tomorrow. We are all human, just trying to be happy. If we can reach ascension and self awareness, together, we can go, together, and behead each and every billionaire and bathe in their life force and consume their cursed flesh, making the world a better place and a better tomorrow for us all 🫂
I’m specifying “gay” because neonazis are trying to coopt it as white pride month. While I agree that queer would be more general, many people don’t like that term and while I’ve never seen “queer pride” mentioned, I did see “gay pride”.
Both men’s health (especially men’s mental health) and LGBTQ rights are huge, important and frequently neglected topics, and IMO using the same month diminishes both (especially since there is considerable overlap, which would be fine if we didn’t suck so much as a society when it comes to these topics). Though I suppose there’s only so many months in a year so it’s inevitably going to get crowded if you want to dedicate entire months to topics.
We don’t need to change everything we say just because neonazis try to take it. That’s literally letting them succeed in coopting the month and the term.
if you refer to it as ‘gay pride month’ you are leaving behind the many queer people who celebrate pride and aren’t gay. Most folks just call it pride now to be inclusive.
That observation doesn’t surprise me, since about 10% of the population is gay. Other types of queer people are a significantly smaller minority.
Also, the term queer just rolls off the tongue much easier than an acronym that never seems to be inclusive enough. I like this word better than any of the acronyms, but I can totally see why some people don’t want to be called queer.
I mean, I’m sure vodka appreciation day falls during temperance week. It’s why having “Official Concept Day” and especially “Official Concept Month” is such a dumbfuck idea.
It’s annoying to have to wonder whether whoever started men’s health month did it just to be all “but what about this other issue?” and intentionally move attention away from pride. Issues of men’s rights and health are extremely important to me, and I hate how often they’re brought up in bad faith by misogynists and other hateful people.
Because it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. A pretty big portion of people that celebrate pride… Are men. (And as a slight tangent, let me just say that pride is amazing for your all-over health)
Of course it was. There’s a subsection of people who want to divide the folks who believe in things like men’s mental health, and also pride. You can do both. You should do both. Trying to move mental health month to overlap with pride is agitprop. Trying to make this a pride versus men issue, or a mental health versus men’s mental health issue, is coordinated nonsense. Don’t let them do that to you.
Advocate for mental health, and men’s mental health, every day. Celebrate mental health month, and include your male friends, like I do. But don’t let someone try and define men’s mental health specifically to overlap with something else, something that right-wing, manosphere assholes will tell you is bad.
Edited to add: I think part of the problem is that folks don’t seem to keep these things in their calendars or in their minds, and just react to ‘whatever month’ when they see image macros. Next year I’ll try and post memes about mental health awareness month during May. I’m not as good at advocating online as I am in person- I usually use the internet to unwind and shitpost and pick fights when my meds wear off. I’ll try and do better.
If you want to make men’s health a whole month, it’s probably not a good idea to make it completely overlap with another prominent health-themed month. Not that June is any better.
I’m a person with C-PTSD who volunteers with local veterans. I really hammered home mental health awareness month. I mean, I talk about it all the time, but NAMI does some cool stuff during May. I even recall seeing some busses that had NAMI wraps on them talking about it in May!
Eta: I said elsewhere, and I’m saying it again (hope it sinks in), next May I’ll try and generate content and memes and stuff. Hearing that some of you didn’t see or hear anything during May has really had a massive dampening effect on my day. Ya’ll deserve outreach, same as everyone in my meatspace.
Yeah I like the idea behind this but the fact that out of the 12 months, this was the month that was chosen for this is fairly eyebrow raising. I’m all for men becoming better people and freeing their minds, having their own liberation movement. But then someone has to come along and specifically choose pride month for this, just making it look bad all over again. It’s like men can’t be happy unless it involves taking away someone else’s happiness.
Men’s health month being identical with gay pride month seems rather unfortunate.
It only seems unfortunate because of toxic issues and misunderstandings.
In reality, the goals of the two groups are completely aligned. Mental health, acceptance, being treated fairly, and just wanting to be happy and free. A lot of pride is essentially modern feminism, which also encompasses men’s rights in good, healthy ways that are ACTUALLY good for men.
As a flaming neurodivergent queer, I can tell you, that pride and men’s health have so many goals in common, that the Venn Diagram is basically just a single circle.
We can absolutely share.
The toxic issues and misunderstandings are precisely the reason why these months exist in the first place.
While it’s true that they’re generally aligned, that doesn’t mean that they actually gain from sharing the same month. Even queer people haven’t all accepted that this is a fight that needs to be fought together, and many men are afraid to get close to queer movement(s) not even necessarily because they themselves think it’s bad, but because they’re afraid of what, let’s say, less enlightened people will think and do.
For the record, I’m queer, too.
I prefer to think of men’s health as pride’s child event: pride has many movements under it, and as long as they don’t go against the spirit and movement of pride, they’re welcome to join.
People will be afraid of anything, for all sorts of real or imagined reasons. I welcome them in peace with arms wide open, for all those that are willing to try in good faith are welcome to seek peace and a better tomorrow. We are all human, just trying to be happy. If we can reach ascension and self awareness, together, we can go, together, and behead each and every billionaire and bathe in their life force and consume their cursed flesh, making the world a better place and a better tomorrow for us all 🫂
;)
Thank you for saying this! This is the bridge building that can make a future worth living
it’s just pride month; you don’t have to be gay to be queer!
How is it unfortunate?
I’m specifying “gay” because neonazis are trying to coopt it as white pride month. While I agree that queer would be more general, many people don’t like that term and while I’ve never seen “queer pride” mentioned, I did see “gay pride”.
Both men’s health (especially men’s mental health) and LGBTQ rights are huge, important and frequently neglected topics, and IMO using the same month diminishes both (especially since there is considerable overlap, which would be fine if we didn’t suck so much as a society when it comes to these topics). Though I suppose there’s only so many months in a year so it’s inevitably going to get crowded if you want to dedicate entire months to topics.
We don’t need to change everything we say just because neonazis try to take it. That’s literally letting them succeed in coopting the month and the term.
It’s just Pride Month, and nazis can get fucked.
if you refer to it as ‘gay pride month’ you are leaving behind the many queer people who celebrate pride and aren’t gay. Most folks just call it pride now to be inclusive.
According to ddg search results, “gay pride” is actually more common than just “pride” where I live.
i’m telling you as a gay queer person that you’ve got it a bit old fashioned. like referring to Ukraine as The Ukraine. you can take it or leave it :)
shrug
This is a consequence of the globalization of the English language.
strikes me as more of simple stubbornness to be honest
That observation doesn’t surprise me, since about 10% of the population is gay. Other types of queer people are a significantly smaller minority.
Also, the term queer just rolls off the tongue much easier than an acronym that never seems to be inclusive enough. I like this word better than any of the acronyms, but I can totally see why some people don’t want to be called queer.
It’s due to Father’s Day and started as the week leading up to Father’s Day.
There’s only 12 months in the year. If every issue is going to have a month, there’s going to be some overlap.
I mean, I’m sure vodka appreciation day falls during temperance week. It’s why having “Official Concept Day” and especially “Official Concept Month” is such a dumbfuck idea.
June 28th is Official Concept Day, I got dibs.
It’s annoying to have to wonder whether whoever started men’s health month did it just to be all “but what about this other issue?” and intentionally move attention away from pride. Issues of men’s rights and health are extremely important to me, and I hate how often they’re brought up in bad faith by misogynists and other hateful people.
Totally bad faith. Mental health awareness month is May. It’s non-gendered but it’s been May since 1949.
Source: NAMI. The National Alliance on Mental Health. I support them financially.
Is that true that it was done in bad faith?
Because it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. A pretty big portion of people that celebrate pride… Are men. (And as a slight tangent, let me just say that pride is amazing for your all-over health)
Of course it was. There’s a subsection of people who want to divide the folks who believe in things like men’s mental health, and also pride. You can do both. You should do both. Trying to move mental health month to overlap with pride is agitprop. Trying to make this a pride versus men issue, or a mental health versus men’s mental health issue, is coordinated nonsense. Don’t let them do that to you.
Advocate for mental health, and men’s mental health, every day. Celebrate mental health month, and include your male friends, like I do. But don’t let someone try and define men’s mental health specifically to overlap with something else, something that right-wing, manosphere assholes will tell you is bad.
Edited to add: I think part of the problem is that folks don’t seem to keep these things in their calendars or in their minds, and just react to ‘whatever month’ when they see image macros. Next year I’ll try and post memes about mental health awareness month during May. I’m not as good at advocating online as I am in person- I usually use the internet to unwind and shitpost and pick fights when my meds wear off. I’ll try and do better.
If you want to make men’s health a whole month, it’s probably not a good idea to make it completely overlap with another prominent health-themed month. Not that June is any better.
It’s inevitable though, there are so many issues and only twelve months.
If ya’ll aren’t emphasizing men’s mental health, which is friggin epidemic, during the mental health month, it’s being done wrong.
Let’s be real, I don’t remember seeing any ‘mental health month’ posts in May.
I find it ironic that mental health awareness month happens during one of the most hectic months of the year for many people.
I got to be honest, that really bums me out.
I’m a person with C-PTSD who volunteers with local veterans. I really hammered home mental health awareness month. I mean, I talk about it all the time, but NAMI does some cool stuff during May. I even recall seeing some busses that had NAMI wraps on them talking about it in May!
Eta: I said elsewhere, and I’m saying it again (hope it sinks in), next May I’ll try and generate content and memes and stuff. Hearing that some of you didn’t see or hear anything during May has really had a massive dampening effect on my day. Ya’ll deserve outreach, same as everyone in my meatspace.
Honestly, I think they work well together. The two subjects can be quite related. Mental health and love are often intertwined, too.
Yeah I like the idea behind this but the fact that out of the 12 months, this was the month that was chosen for this is fairly eyebrow raising. I’m all for men becoming better people and freeing their minds, having their own liberation movement. But then someone has to come along and specifically choose pride month for this, just making it look bad all over again. It’s like men can’t be happy unless it involves taking away someone else’s happiness.
Yeah, if they start dating men it’s only going to get worse. Their mental health.
If we assume that men who date men were already gay, bi etc. before, surely their mental health would improve compared to being fully in the closet?
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