• Elrick_Winter@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This presoposes that we defend the status quo. Trumps reelection and now the polish election made it clear that this is a losing strategy. We need a new approach to countering fascism and for rebuilding democracy.

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      One of the key things to take away from this is that our current tactics are insufficient, mostly because they stick to “old-style” decorum while the far right doesn’t impose any of those kinds of limits upon themselves. We essentially handicap ourselves by “playing nice” while the people we’re up against have no such qualms in the slightest. If we don’t learn to fight dirty as well we might as well give up right now.

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        I honestly don’t think we have to play dirty in any way, we have to be willing to be just as forceful as they are when we tell them “no.” And we need to start telling them that a lllot more!

        The problem with the old system is not that it tries to always play nice, it’s that it’s trying to not upset the money. As an example, the correct way to aproach Trump’s tariffs and overall intentions would have been to completely cut any and all economic and political ties with America. Like, no offence to any Americans who didn’t vote for him, but that’s the unfortunate truth.

        Of course, that would’ve been DEEPLY uncomfortable for all of us and would’ve required a unified front on our end, but sometimes you have to burn the field if you’re to make room for a healthier crop.

        And this is an extreme example, but the same principle applies in all such interactions with Fascism, at any level. We (Romania) narrowly avoided electing a Fascistic president - that guy should’ve been pelted with tomatoes from day one, he should’ve been shouted out of the electoral pool. But we can’t have that, because the Fascists will get upset.

        My question: who the fuck cares if we upset the Fascists?! Isn’t that the whole fucking point?!

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          My question: who the fuck cares if we upset the Fascists?! Isn’t that the whole fucking point?!

          If you go out of your way to avoid upsetting fascists, the fascists win, because they will for sure make up a way to be upset about you if it only suits them.

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            Exactly! It’s slithering and insidious, it looks for any crack and forces its way through! Trying to reason with Fascism is like trying to reason with an aggressive form of cancer.

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      This. The old ways are only good at limiting the flow, and even that’s up to a point.

      Fascism is the type of vehemence which requires an equal vehemence to successfully oppose it.