• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    How is it similar if Ukraine see preventing Iran from having nukes as a legitimate target?
    Ukraine gave up their nukes against guarantees that USA would help protect them.
    Then Russia invades anyway in 2014, Because they want Crimea.
    And Obama says to Ukraine they are on their own.
    Then in 2022 Russia invade again, despite Ukraine is not in any way threatening Russia.
    And Biden makes some half-assed support for Ukraine, giving them support, but only just enough to maintain a stalemate.

    It is clearly no wonder why Ukraine want USA to make good on their promise, but USA is a shit country you can’t rely on. It’s n0ot just Trump, it’s actually 3 presidents, and 2 of them were democratic.

    But there is no way you can claim Ukraine is parroting Russia in this, the difference is that Iran is trying to get nukes, and Ukraine gave up theirs for protection.
    But clearly the advice to Iran must be to get those nukes as fast as they freakingly can, because they can’t trust Israel and USA to not attack unless they have them.

    • Saleh@feddit.org
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      How is it similar if Ukraine see preventing Iran from having nukes as a legitimate target?

      The IAEA said there was no evidence of that. The CIA said since their first assessment in 2007 Iran has not been seeking to develop nuclear weapons. An assessment that was reconfirmed in the 2025 intelligence report.

      It was a lie and everyone knows it is a lie, except for the people gullible enough to follow the propaganda.

      This was three days before the full scale invasion by Russia into Ukraine:

      https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705

      It is exactly the same play. “There is weapons of mass destructions. We need to prevent that!” Iran was neither threatening the US nor Israel with attacks and only responded to Israel attacks in 2024. Zelensky knows that. The knows that he is forsaking international law and truth in the hopes he would get some scraps.