I think it should be more akin to something like email. There is no one entity that controls all emails. It’s lots of independant servers and clients able to communicate with each other.
I would like something P2P like Briar to be the norm. But something federated like Matrix or DeltaChat would be nice too.
It should be P2P (like Torrent, not like Lemmy), routed through some anonymity layer like Tor or I2P so no one knows your IP, there should be no central point of failure, and of course I would love for it to have the same features, reliablility and speed as Signal or Telegram.
Closest I could find is Briar. It even works if the internet is down, which is nice. But it would be cooler if it worked with LoRA or something too.
I don’t know what would be most censorship resistant or technically capable of fully replacing modern messengers, but this here is a good list, anything that says ‘decentralized’:
A long time ago, like 5+ years ago shortly after release, I can’t say it impressed me. Neither when I periodically checked on it. Seems like is has significantly improved since then.
The issue is always whether or not I can sell it to my technically challenged friends and family. I don’t see those platforms taking over unless anyone can use them. Briar is sadly pretty lacking. Cwtch also seems interesting but I haven’t taken to time to check if it’s good yet.
I haven’t been that deeply immersed in the topic in the last 5+ years, but it seems like nothing much has changed. It’s still all the same players that seem to be interesting.
For me its not usable as sometimes messages don’t deliver. However I’m watching it closely to see if it gets better.
I wish it didn’t tie your profile into a username. I have been using simplex chat and it is nice not having a username that could get leaked or abused. Jami requires approval from the recipient before you can send messages but in my option that isn’t enough.
So you are recommending matrix? Signal ban us? Is a signal ban as terrible as a telegram ban?
I think it should be more akin to something like email. There is no one entity that controls all emails. It’s lots of independant servers and clients able to communicate with each other.
So… XMPP) With Matrix as a newer, more bloated version of it.
I would like something P2P like Briar to be the norm. But something federated like Matrix or DeltaChat would be nice too.
It should be P2P (like Torrent, not like Lemmy), routed through some anonymity layer like Tor or I2P so no one knows your IP, there should be no central point of failure, and of course I would love for it to have the same features, reliablility and speed as Signal or Telegram.
Closest I could find is Briar. It even works if the internet is down, which is nice. But it would be cooler if it worked with LoRA or something too.
I don’t know what would be most censorship resistant or technically capable of fully replacing modern messengers, but this here is a good list, anything that says ‘decentralized’:
https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-messaging
Have you tried Jami?
A long time ago, like 5+ years ago shortly after release, I can’t say it impressed me. Neither when I periodically checked on it. Seems like is has significantly improved since then.
The issue is always whether or not I can sell it to my technically challenged friends and family. I don’t see those platforms taking over unless anyone can use them. Briar is sadly pretty lacking. Cwtch also seems interesting but I haven’t taken to time to check if it’s good yet.
I haven’t been that deeply immersed in the topic in the last 5+ years, but it seems like nothing much has changed. It’s still all the same players that seem to be interesting.
For me its not usable as sometimes messages don’t deliver. However I’m watching it closely to see if it gets better.
I wish it didn’t tie your profile into a username. I have been using simplex chat and it is nice not having a username that could get leaked or abused. Jami requires approval from the recipient before you can send messages but in my option that isn’t enough.
Yeah I feel like the entire space still needs another 5 to 10 years until it produces a viable competitor to centralized messengers.
Simplex Chat sounds interesting. So you basically generate new public IDs for every new contact? That’s probably the best way to do it.