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    11 months ago

    Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

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      11 months ago

      It experiences a lot of downtime because the alt right kids who got defederated keep using 4chans ddos tool to bring it down…

      It’s not going down from normal user load.

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    i feel like blocking of instances leads to worse echo chambers than subreddits themselves. We gonna have bubbles of federation networks that don’t federate with each other. E.g. lefties, righties, “dark web” illegal shit, kinky shit, and instances that federate with all of them will be blocked by other instances because “use my blacklist or get defederated”. This is gonna lead to hell for users having to create fifty accounts for each bubble. Aint nobody got time for that.

    i wish it remained a user’s option to block/unblock content they don’t/do want to see. Each instance could provide their “recommended” default list of enabled instances, and user can go and enable others, like how NSFW toggle works. Maybe group instances into categories with tags or something, like “porn”, “memes”, “tankies”, “nazis”, “warez”, etc

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    Holy fucking shit they’re blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

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      11 months ago

      Eh? It’s understandable. They shouldn’t be forced to deal with any legal issues that come with it.

      You can just use another instance that fits your needs, isn’t that the whole point of this decentralized model?

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        There are no legal issues. You can fucking talk about piracy completely legally. This is a moral position being taken under the excuse of legality by liberals who run their server with a strict political leaning, as demonstrated by their mass banning of socialists and defederation from every left wing space.

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    11 months ago

    Sucks but if Lemmy.World is gonna be the “face” of Lemmy it’s probably best to keep the shadier sides of the fediverse out. Just to keep the damn lawyer trolls off our back.

    Plus it keeps the “uninitiated normies” out of the Piracy instance. At least until they know.

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      11 months ago

      Since the hexbear federation I’ve seen that little stormfront logo a lot, illuminate me, what’s that?

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        11 months ago

        An alt-right neonazi forum/organization/etc. Putting it to reddit context is for two reasons. First, because we’re all pissed at reddit’s recent behavior. But second because Spez has been accused (with evidence) of being sorta Elon-like in his courting of the alt-right, and possibly having extreme right leanings himself.

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        Stromfront is a literal white supremacist neo-Nazi forum. As in the logo on their website has “White Pride World Wide” written around a Celtic cross. If you’ve ever seen The Boys, that site is the reason the character Stormfront is named that, and she’s positively nice compared to some of what goes on in that forum.

        The whole point is to liken Reddit to Stormfront, and it’s connected to hexbear because ChapoTrapHouse is on hexbear and ChapoTrapHouse is more or less the only lefty subreddit to ever be punished under rules against brigading, calls for violence, etc. They were quarantined and later banned. So since Reddit banned an explicitly lefty sub that one time, that makes Reddit akin to a white supremacist hate forum.

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    Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

    Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.

    De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

    Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

    Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

    De-federation is bad.

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      If an instance is merely blocked, does that mean all content produced by that instance, or by a Lemmy.World user using that instance, is strictly not stored on Lemmy.World servers?

      Otherwise there might still be liability. Also, in the US you don’t even have to do anything illegal to be the target of a lawsuit—distancing from piracy is a practical defense against the cost of legal proceedings, even if it’s technically legal.

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    Oh do please tell me about this “piracy” you speak of. Pirates are my people, I sailed the seas with them back in 1998 and my 28 kilobaud modem. Unfortunately I have lost sight of them in the private tracker wars.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve never bothered with private trackers, what benefits do they actually provide?

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        None, just use a VPN and thepiratebay/nyaa/whatever else and stop being a baby

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            I would never execute a pirated app in a non sandboxed environment, that’s just silly.

            Just buy games on steam like the rest of the world.

            I’m talking movies and anime personally

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                Who tf

                I have like 600 games in my backlog between emulation and steam sales, why would I risk a keylogger snatching my bank info?

                You think you’re safe using a private tracker? Lol

                I might trust fitgirl repacks, if I was truly broke and desperate and kept it to my gaming only partition.

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        They say they provide curation of content, keep out lawyers and provide an incentive to seed.

        In practice none of these are provided.

        What they really are, are entities who sell access to copyright infringement material.

        They discourage network effect free sharing. They discourage posting content with investors rules and they impede seeding by creating a zero sum economy where nobody wants to download anything unless they really have to because you won’t be able too seed your ratio back to 1 as everybody tries to seed and nobody disappears.

        It leads to the ridiculous practice of downloading whatever gets posted on the RSS feed, just so you can seed it to other people who blind download stuff just to seed it. Basically a pump and dump scheme where someone always end up holding the bag.

        All this to motivate people to buy their ratio back. I’ve seen one recent case they were charging 20$ to free leech 80gb.

        In other words private trackers are shit, kill private trackers with DHT

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    I’ve begun blocking their communities in my accounts and I plan to defederate from them when i get home. Fuck em. Place is infested with exploding heads anyway.

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      When I looked at that site to see what everyone is talking about, it looked dead with most posts having no comments. Am I missing something? Doesn’t really seem like a threat to Lemmy.

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    I want to just block all the far right instances like .world blahaj.zone and sh.itjust.works from even showing up at all