😆 I doubt we’ll both be here in a couple of years but if you do put it up online just throw in a dedication to Radovic the Unreasonable.

I wish you luck in your creative endeavours, remember to enjoy the process and if this book doesn’t work out, don’t be discouraged try something else. Took me ages to find out that if you stick with something you can get good at it no matter how you start out.

I have a busy week ahead away from the keyboard but I will be back next weekend to either rebuild or say adios.

Thanks for your kind words.

Stay cool!

Was tried before. Didn’t work.

We’re still awaiting the outcome of the situation. If the downvotes are turned off again I shall repost all of the images that have gone. If not I shall pm you links before I go.

I know, it was a joke because we can all see what the finances are.

Truth is, as I think you already know, that you couldn’t pay me enough to overcome this issue.

All this seems very fair. I’m under no illusion as to the popularity of downvotes, I would say that damn near all of them want to be able to downvote.

The question I have asked you and have asked @CombedSpaghetti is what motivates me or any of your other regular posters to post when they know that all their efforts can be nullified, for any reason you can think of, by someone pushing a button at the wrong moment.

And you can’t. Not unless you cut us in on that sweet crypto action 😜

Yeah this time spam. This is admin Yay talking about it last year:

Some people found it right, some people hated it, some people hesitated. At the end of the day, since we are on a disorganised platform like fediverse, I find the decision we took right. However, I was also annoyed by the lack of downvotes. So I searched for a solution.

https://lemmynsfw.com/post/4962186

Then he said this a few months later:

As you may notice, downvotes have been completely off for the last few days. I did this because I couldn’t resist the pressure of some friends :/ I still don’t know what to do about this. The majority of members probably want it to be completely open. As mods, posters and admins; some think it should be closed, some think it should be restricted (I guess).

I guess there is no solution that makes everyone happy. I realized I don’t have admin skills in stressful situations, I’m a fucking stupid lol :D I miss @gabe so much.

lemmyposter212 suggested “fuzzy votes” or something that can work for us too. I think I’ll just ghost this issue for a while.

https://lemmynsfw.com/post/7152586

“Annoyed by the lack” and “:/” sounds like the admins just want downvotes. Well, it is their instance and they will have what they want.

What you have to do to actually win this argument is to tell me why I should bother to post anything when people are downvoting it.

What would motivate me to service the needs of people that hate the majority of content?

To be quite frank, I don’t know why you’re even doing this. We had a discussion about it last year and all the same points were raised after which you turned them off, only to turn them on and have another debate a few weeks later and you then had to turn them off again. I think you know that you will probably have to turn them off again at some point. So how about you level with us, what is it about downvotes that you find so compelling?

I don’t need viewers. I choose to share content with users that like it but if you think I won’t walk away from this instance over this and carry on with my life without looking back then you’re mistaken.

I posted when this instance first started and there was nearly nothing.

Why did you stop?

Well I’m not going to post anything, so you’re not going to decide whether it gets exposure or not. So that’s that sorted.

No, it’s you who aren’t entitled to content.

If I have to make an effort to do something it has to be rewarded. Else why do it?

You don’t wake up in the morning and whack yourself in the face with a teaspoon, do you? It wouldn’t happen because there would be no reward in it. Except for that one person in 100,000.

So without me, and people like me*, you ain’t up or downvoting anything because no on is posting.

*Unless you want to leave the posting to the bots…

I don’t like downvotes. I post stuff here, if it gets downvoted it can fail and go below the level of visibility that garners it more votes. People will downvote for any reason that comes into their heads. It’s almost like random noise but it messes with my post’s path to its intended audience.

I don’t see what possible motivation I would have to keep posting when that is happening.

OK, thank you.

OK so the downvotes were turned on and I didn’t know about it and I checked in on that post, it had gone to minus one. And that felt a little bit shit.

Next thing I have the thought, “Oh I had better go back to not making my titles funny, they don’t like that.”

Then I had the, “Wait, why am I even doing this?” moment.

So that’s the question I am asking in this conversation. Why should I get to feel a little bit shit every time I do a particular thing? And the answer is: I shouldn’t do that thing, isn’t it?

Listen, you’re going to do what you want and so am I. And that’s fair enough.

Why should I get any at all?

You ain’t paying me, it’s rare that people leave a comment thanking me, although some users very kindly have. So all that’s left is the pleasure of seeing a post do well. Unfortunately, because of the mechanics of the board if a post doesn’t do well in the early part of the day or is rushed off the front page by a rush of content then it rarely becomes visible to the Americans when they come online.

And returning to the last post standing, OK it’s not a popular post which I would know if the score was 4. But four people liked it. It bought a very small but significant amount of pleasure to their visit here. Why should it be necessary for people to downvote it? I already know that they are part of the overwhelming majority of people that didn’t upvote it.

Last point: go look at the one comment on that post. I haven’t had a comment like that before. But it happened the day the downvotes got turned on.

If you look at my profile, you can see one picture that I decided to leave. It attracted, so far, 4 upvotes and three downvotes. The net score is 1, which is the same as if I hadn’t bothered posting it. Easier not to bother.

I’m on strike until they get turned off again or the end of time, whichever is sooner.

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