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  • You absolutely should. With time, the data they have on you will grow outdated, meaning they won’t be able to track an analyze your behaviour because they’ll have no idea how you behave now. It’s like the trail going cold. Hell, just becoming privacy focused already makes it near-impassible to be tracked, and since privacy-aware software doesn’t track, collect, sell or buy your data, what little they have will be much less useful. Also, if you live in the EU, the GDPR gives you a right to request the deletion of all data they have on you, and they must comply. Most other places probably also have laws in place to request the deletion of your data.




  • Wether Telegram cares is beside the point. The original comment explained why Telegram is inconvenient for the CCP, to which you interject that it is not E2EE. All conversations on Telegram are encryted in one way or another, which is a major problem for the CCP, and people who desire privacy and use Telegram are likely to go out of their way and use the E2EE feature as well. Regular chats being decrypted in the backend is uncool for sure, but if you live under an oppressive regime that murders dissidents and their families, targeted ads are the least of your worries.

    Telegram may not be good for theday-to-day privacy needs of the West, but it’s pretty great for fighting oppression. Not only is it encrypted, no other encrypted messenger (that I know of) has the organisational utilities that Telegram has, such as channels and 200k groups. If I had to organise any sort of dissident activism in an oppressive, censorship-happy state, I’d probably use Telegram.


    1. Some people are going to care enough about the CCP not reading their chats to use Secret Chats… and those people are exactly the ones the CCP wants to spy on, so it’s a problem.

    2. Even without Secret Chats, messages are still encrypted, just not E2E encrypted. They are encrypted until they reach Telegram’s servers, where they are decrypted, backed up, reencrypted and forwarded to the recipient. This is done to enable chat synchronisation across devices, but all chats, Secret or not, are encrypted at all points outside of Telegram’s servers. The CCP doesn’t control the servers, ergo the CCP can’t see the chats (unless they find a way to snoop on the user end, but this is harder for them to do and easier for users to circumvent).