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  • wren@feddit.uktoScience Memes@mander.xyzBurning Up
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    8 days ago

    the wet bulb temperature1 is just the temperature of a wet thermometer, and varies with humidity and temperature. Wet bulb temp is never higher than the dry bulb temp, so (entertainingly) you’re proposing that the meaning of 100° varies wildly and is always lower than the true temperature, effectively making the air temperature always ≥100°, and increases when the air is drier, like some sort of inverse relative humidity.

    1(I’m aware you probably didn’t mean wet bulb temperature here, but let’s have fun with the idea) :)



  • Where I live, in December, it’s already night by 4pm, whereas in July, 4pm isn’t even the peak of heat yet. But if someone said “good evening” to me at 4pm in either of them, I’d prob accept it either way, and I’m a meteorologist

    Also: In the UK and the US, the typical meteorological standard is just to split seasons by month (DJF MAM JJA SON) for easy stats reasons, but other countries have entirely different standards based on climate. Different people have different definitions and it’s completely fine












  • good question!! I actually might have been mistaken by saying sea salt was an INP (whoops).

    Sea salt is a great condensation nuclei (CCN). CCN allow cloud droplets to form instead of ice crystals.

    For cloud seeding to work well, it’s better to seed with INP instead of CCN because if you encourage lots of droplets to form, all you get is a bunch of really tiny droplets, making a really bright white cloud (no rain!). (Side note: that’s why rain clouds look dark: they’re made of fewer really big droplets.)

    Adding sea salt to clouds is a thing though! It’s been proposed as Marine Cloud Brightening - adding lots of sea salt to the air over the ocean, making the earth more reflective to combat further global warming.

    As far as I know, most inorganic salts are good INP or CCN, but have varying efficiencies. Sea salt dissolves in liquid water whereas silver iodide doesn’t, and silver iodide has the right sort of hexagonal crystal lattice for ice to start sticking to. So silver iodide is a great INP whereas sea salt is a great CCN.

    Even longer (and reasonably silly) explanation here: https://www.acsh.org/news/2022/09/01/why-are-clouds-seeded-silver-does-it-work-16538


  • This article isn’t perfectly scientifically accurate but it’s better than most! For those interested, here’s a better (detailed) explanation of the science:

    Cloud seeding works best in supercooled liquid clouds, which start with barely any ice in. For ice to form in clouds, you need INP (ice nucleating particles), aerosols such as sea salt, or dust, for the ice to grow onto. INP can be pretty rare, depending on where you are in the world.

    By adding silver iodide (an efficient INP) ice crystals can form. This means the cloud has both ice and liquid water in (a “mixed phase” cloud).

    For multiple reasons, ice grows better and faster than liquid cloud droplets (the “Wegener Bergeron Findeisen effect” for one). Because there’s only so much water in the cloud, these ice crystals then grow at the expense of water droplets in the air, allowing for big snowflakes to grow, but droplets evaporate.

    This turns it from a cloud with many tiny droplets, into one with big heavy snowflakes, which fall out of the cloud. Before the snowflakes reach the ground, they melt, turning into rain.

    TLDR; cloud seeding takes the water already in the cloud, and makes it precipitate slightly more efficiently, but only if you improve the balance of aerosols in the air just right