• Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Biden does not share my view that genocide is bad. If you want to vote for genocide guy because orange man bad, you are devoid of morals. You are a spineless worm, deserving only scorn and derision.

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        It’s a really lazy reduction, too. Biden doesn’t spend his days just looking for ways to support genocide. Even if Trump and Biden are “essentially the same” with regard to genocide (they’re not), you can treat that as a logically moot issue. Therefore, you have to look at their other points, and in no way is Trump a better option than Biden in that regard, unless you’re personally getting kickbacks from the Trump grift mill.

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          There’s what Biden is actually doing vs what people think Trump will do. You think Trump will worsen the genocide - but what does that mean, materially? Biden is already sending Israel all the weapons they want and giving them all the air cover they need politically. What more could Trump do?

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            What more could Trump do?

            Send troops. Enact a draft to that end to “make the libz cry.” Send more weapons.

            But you’re agreeing with my point. If Trump and Biden are essentially the same on this issue, you have to compare the other things about them, and they are not even close to the same on other issues (LGBTQ rights, unions, women’s rights, taxes for the rich, etc.). If “supports genocide” is the single issue for you, then you live an immensely privileged life that you don’t have to worry about other aspects of governance.

            And no matter what you think, thanks to FPTP, those are your two options, because you can’t build the momentum needed to upset the upcoming election; you’re years too late. Abstention is a vote for the person you like less, so you are left with voting for Biden or Trump, whether you like it or not.

            Voting is not a valentine, it’s a chess move.

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              Oh sure let’s talk about LGBTQ rights and Women’s rights shall we. Under which president was Roe v. Wade struck down? Under which president have abortion bans in many states popped up with complete inaction from the federal government? Under which president have anti-trans laws popped up with complete inaction from the federal government?

              My expectations of Trump is we will have a buffoonish worsening of the current conditions of the world. Under Biden we will have a cynical worsening of current conditions. Am I priveleged? Yes, I live in the imperial core. I live in a blue state. I have a stable job. But don’t think for a second that I can’t see what’s happening around me.

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                Under which president was Roe v. Wade struck down?

                This one.

                And who put the Federalist Society justices in place who struck it down? Oh, that’s right. Donald fucking Trump.

                Under which president have abortion bans in many states popped up with complete inaction from the federal government? Under which president have anti-trans laws popped up with complete inaction from the federal government?

                This one.

                What powers do you think they have? Laws are struck down by the judiciary, which we’ve already established has been captured, thanks to Trump.

                Here’s a question for you: who has been enacting those laws? What is the nature of the legislature in those cases?

                None of your gripes here are Biden’s fault, unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that). Trump is 100% to blame for the current state of the law, and helping him get reelected isn’t going to help LGBTQ people or women’s rights.

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                  And who put the Federalist Society justices in place who struck it down? Oh, that’s right. Donald fucking Trump.

                  Joe Biden had more to do with Clarence Thomas being on the court than any republican

                  And what did Biden do in response to Roe being struck down? Oh, that’s right. He made statements about how he’s against abortion.

                  What powers do you think they have?

                  Executive power, dummy. The actual power to do what he wants to do with federal resources. The court only has the power to talk about what he does after the fact.

                  unless you’re wishing he’d be more authoritarian (fuck that)

                  LMAO WELL THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP IF YOU DON’T WANT YOUR POLITICIANS TO EXERCISE AUTHORITY DIPSHIT

                  Why are you pretending to give a shit about politics in the first place??

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        7 months ago

        Trump derangement syndrome really is real if you think there exists a worse possibility than the maximalist position already held by the biggest zionist politician America has had in the last 70 years. You think ‘orange man’ is going to be worse just because ‘orange man bad’?