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    They wanted to keep the fighters who were willing to stay and not be Nazis. Changing the name is pointless it’s named after the Azov Sea, and cleaning house can be done without changing the emblem, especially as it was only a Wolfsangel and not a Swastika. Had it been a Swastika I’d be 110% on your side but it isn’t. As already said: Random people just don’t associate the Wolfsangel with Nazis, you pretty much need to be a Nazi or Antifa to recognise it.

    And since when is Jägermeister a Nazi drink. What’s next, Berentzen Saurer Apfel?

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      Okay, hold on!

      The original azov wolfsangel insignia was a Nazi dogwhistle (you agreed with this!), but a little churn and a change of management and the exact same name and insignia are somehow fine?

      How does that work?

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        By people not considering the name and symbol tarnished enough to change? By not considering the symbol more important than the actual lived political practice (or rather lack thereof) in the regiment?

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          If the new management doesn’t consider at the very least the symbol chosen to appeal to Nazis tarnished enough to change when they take control of the Nazi militia then the new management are Nazis too.

          If it was chosen to appeal to Nazis then by not changing it they’re choosing to continue appealing to Nazis!

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            Yet simultaneously they cracked down on Nazis. Sounds like a contradiction, doesn’t it? That’s because you’re putting more meaning into the symbol than others.

            Or, differently put: Why don’t you stop arguing symbols and research how Azov troops think in 2023.

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              Ah yes, why don’t I ask people teaming under a Nazi banner what they think?

              Because their Nazi banner tells me what they think! If they didn’t think that way they’d choose another banner!

              Stop defending Nazis.

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                And it’s a Nazi banner because… they’re Nazis because they have a Nazi banner?

                And no you don’t have to actually talk to them. Plenty of information out there. If you want armed right-wingers to worry about in Ukraine then that’d be Right Sector.

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                    If Nazis advertise with free pudding does that make all pudding eaters Nazis?

                    this isn’t tough stuff. stop defending nazis.

                    You’re trying very hard to hold up a connection which is tenable at best. Also, stop fucking insulting people as Nazis for disagreeing with you. Have I expressed anything but disagreement with Nazis here, anywhere? I haven’t for my whole fucking life. Touch grass.