I’d argue holding our noses and voting for ever less appealing candidates from an ever more out of touch party has led to a party that doesn’t actually try to win general elections, providing the republicans with the structural advantage of being the only party actually trying to win, which is a BIG advantage.
well if you don’t vote now, you no longer have to worry about that, as chances are there will be no more elections that the democrats could even try to win.
Interesting that every ambitious democratic governor is holding their presidential run until 2028 since there aren’t going to be anymore elections. Have you considered the DNC is lying to you and actually expect there to be a 2028 presidential race?
Is it pragmatic to browbeat individual voters when the party itself is dysfunctional and insists on running candidates 75% of voters don’t want to see run?
Given the choice between ruin the country and the planet in that order and “this candidate is uninspired” or “wow not very good”, you have to be a giant entitled sack of shit to make everyone go down the road of ruined country and planet. We would ALL like it to be a better choice, but for christs sake don’t be an obstinate fuckstick: it’s not getting you a better candidate, it’s literally just punishing everyone if you stay home.
Choose between: “you might get to choose a good option again”, and “you almost definitely won’t”. That’s what’s on the table. You HAVE a preference, but it’s not an inspired choice. When it’s orange Hitler vs green Hitler, by all means, make your stand. If you are making a stand between orange Hitler and “meh” you deserve a brow beating every hour of every day until November.
I’m talking about a knowably losing campaign that has been losing the whole time and hasn’t even done a campaign staff firing to try to shake things up… I guess you and I have very different definitions of “trying.”
If you don’t live in one of like 10 states, literally nothing you do this cycle matters one way or the other. I do not live in one of those states. I’d wager you don’t either.
I agree, until that happens though, all of us are required to choose the least bad option.
I’d argue holding our noses and voting for ever less appealing candidates from an ever more out of touch party has led to a party that doesn’t actually try to win general elections, providing the republicans with the structural advantage of being the only party actually trying to win, which is a BIG advantage.
well if you don’t vote now, you no longer have to worry about that, as chances are there will be no more elections that the democrats could even try to win.
Interesting that every ambitious democratic governor is holding their presidential run until 2028 since there aren’t going to be anymore elections. Have you considered the DNC is lying to you and actually expect there to be a 2028 presidential race?
What else are they going to do? Just run anyway with no support and torpedo the chances anyone beats the Cheeto king?
Have you considered… Pragmatism?
Is it pragmatic to browbeat individual voters when the party itself is dysfunctional and insists on running candidates 75% of voters don’t want to see run?
Yes it 100% fucking is.
Given the choice between ruin the country and the planet in that order and “this candidate is uninspired” or “wow not very good”, you have to be a giant entitled sack of shit to make everyone go down the road of ruined country and planet. We would ALL like it to be a better choice, but for christs sake don’t be an obstinate fuckstick: it’s not getting you a better candidate, it’s literally just punishing everyone if you stay home.
Choose between: “you might get to choose a good option again”, and “you almost definitely won’t”. That’s what’s on the table. You HAVE a preference, but it’s not an inspired choice. When it’s orange Hitler vs green Hitler, by all means, make your stand. If you are making a stand between orange Hitler and “meh” you deserve a brow beating every hour of every day until November.
Not trying to win elections? They are in office right now, having won an election.
What are you even talking about?
I’m talking about a knowably losing campaign that has been losing the whole time and hasn’t even done a campaign staff firing to try to shake things up… I guess you and I have very different definitions of “trying.”
Claiming that the democrats are throwing the election to the fascists seems more like an excuse to justify your doing the same thing.
If you don’t live in one of like 10 states, literally nothing you do this cycle matters one way or the other. I do not live in one of those states. I’d wager you don’t either.
That’s a much better point to make than the conspiracism you started with. Why didn’t you start with that?
To your response, do you not have local elections that affect your life? Do you think not voting will improve your home?
For sure, for sure.