• Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden’s withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
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    2 months ago

    You know what I’m not seeing?

    ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

    ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

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      Yeah, they can’t take two seconds to enjoy the victory they wanted. They have to move on to the next thing to bitch and moan about.

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          Pretty much. That way when Trump won, they could say “see? We told you so!”

          Much more important than them or people they might care about getting marched into camps.

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              2 months ago

              bomb em Biden

              • Takes too long to even figure out
              • Not really all that punchy
              • “Genocide Joe” is already perfectly serviceable without these drawbacks
              • Dude… he’s out of the race now. Why you are even trying out new ways to dunk on Joe at this point is beyond me. Unless you were just excited that you thought of it and wanted to have a chance to apply it before the moment is past even though the moment is, at this point, past

              3/10. It’s not, like, a total failure, but there are multiple reasons just not even to use it. Can I recommend “cacklin’ Kamala” instead, as a replacement?

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          Exactly.

          It’s quite insidious.

          Today I’m suddenly seeing a lot of “vote blue no matter who”, which IMO is intended to stifle enthusiasm for Kamala.

          If the left could unite behind a candidate we’d destroy the GOP.

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          2 months ago

          Several others are not. Including a person who has been posting anti-Biden articles in this community for months, who has now switched to anti-Harris articles.

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        They never thought it would happen. They shot themselves in both feet with shotguns. Now they’re in panic mode because they’re realizing they’re really fucked now.

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      ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

      Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts like that. Stuff like “Donated to the democratic party to show this was necessary”, “Finally, we can safely roast Trump for being old and senile”, “I don’t care who the replacement is, thank god he’s out”.

      There are some shit-stirrers, but they seem to be the minority.

      Disclaimer: I am not American, cannot vote or donate, am heavily invested in the election due to the ramifications on Ukraine.

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        Can you link me to them?

        You don’t, like, have to, but I am genuinely curious. I haven’t seen that and I am wondering if there is some segment of Lemmy that I am missing.

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          Just look around this comment section, and other comment sections in [email protected] and [email protected]

          As I said, there’s the occasional commenter that is trying to throw shit at the democratic party generally, but by and large the majority of comments are in favour of this, and if you click through to individual users it’s not hard to find users that were hoping that Biden would drop out a week ago.

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      Wasn’t rabid before, but I was one of those for Biden stepping down in favor of Kamala. I just wanted a strong voice that was capable of at least countering Trump’s endless spew of lies. But I have noticed those that are now bashing Kamala were also telling people not to vote for Biden.

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      They’re waiting on the next talking points from their Russian overlords. Give it a day or so and they’ll be back with some new, yet all the same, arguments.

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      I’m happy AF.

      Biden’s legacy is secure. He can rest easy as the man who beat back the right-wing fascist autocracy and led the country to elect the first female president. 🤞

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        Remember the end of season 1 of “Arcane”, where everything looks like maybe it’s gonna be okay, and then you get to see in slow motion how an unexpected spasm of violence undoes anything good that might have been building, and you know everything’s gonna be bad, bad bad, going forward?

        I hope I am wrong

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      Me, 22 days ago

      We’ve never had a pair of candidates this unpopular. (Maybe Trump vs Clinton)
      If the Dems had any kind of brains, they absolutely would pick someone else at the convention.
      Just not Harris; She might be the only one, less popular than Biden is.

      At this point, I guess she’s a better pick than Biden, just not by much.
      I still want an open convention, and someone else.

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        I think the missing factor to consider is that Biden is unpopular mostly because of the media telling absolute dogshit lies about him like that he was bad for the economy.

        Sure, he’s old. But if “elderly” was a disqualifying factor, then “insurrectionist” would be, also. I think the issue is that the media is going in the tank against the progressive, as they tend to do, and that that has the potential to swing against any genuinely decent candidate that the Democrats want to put forward. I sorta hesitate to say that a good answer to that is “okay well let’s just put forward a more corporate friendly candidate who will be ‘popular’ with the people whose perception is shaped by the media.”

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          But if “elderly” was a disqualifying factor, then “insurrectionist” would be, also.

          Those two things are unrelated.
          One is a crime, the other is inevitable.

          But my issue is that nearly all the Democratic elite, are more or less anti-progressive. The only real economic populist thing I know Biden did was appoint Lina Kahn as the FTC chair.

          I would love to see her as a candidate! But she chose to be born in England, taking herself out of the running.

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            The only real economic populist thing I know Biden did was appoint Lina Kahn as the FTC chair.

            Half a trillion dollars spent addressing climate change, huge boosts to domestic manufacturing and unions, resulting in big wage gains for the working class outpacing even historic levels of inflation, income inequality actually going down which usually doesn’t happen in the US, big hike in corporate tax by two trillion dollars to pay for all of that

            The fact that Biden wasn’t seen as a victory for working people and progressive goals in the US is a sign of how INSANELY counterfactual our media created political reality is

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      lol that’s a really broad extrapolation of what, a few people you saw that happened to post something in the last day? Just boldly labeling anyone who had a criticism of Biden as a bitter troll or something?