• OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Obviously they should take responsibility. Should Israel take responsibility for it’s crimes too?

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      1 year ago

      So why blame Israel for something Hamas is doing? Why aren’t you ranting about them?

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          1 year ago

          They did. Israel is firing at Hamas, not hospitals. Full stop.

          To take out Hamas any other way would be worse for civilians because it would involve a longer operation including a cordon. Look at 2017 in Mosul if you don’t believe me.

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            1 year ago

            They did. Israel is firing at Hamas, not hospitals. Full stop.

            Weird thing to say. How do you explain this?

            They bombed the (water) tanks, they bombed the water wells, they bombed the oxygen pump as well. They bombed everything in the hospital. So we are hardly surviving. We tell everyone, the hospital is no more a safe place for treating patients. We are harming patients by keeping them here

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            Gaza health ministry spokesperson Qidra said an Israel tank was now stationed at the hospital gate. Israeli snipers and drones were firing into the hospital, making it impossible for medics and patients to move around. “We are besieged and are inside a circle of death,” he said.

            And there are 32 patients dead in the past three days because of Israel’s blockade of supplies alone. Not to mention the constant bombing.

            I find it really weird that people come into the comments to demand people denounce Hamas, but then refuse to acknowledge Israel’s crimes under any circumstances. Is it so hard to call out crimes in both sides?

            Honestly if someone can’t acknowledge the problems with what Israel is doing here I don’t think there’s anything to be gained from debating this with them

            Edit: I thought you were the original commenter before, sorry, but the point still stands

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              1 year ago

              To take out Hamas using any other approach than the way Israel is currently doing it would be much worse for civilians. I’m not the original commentator but don’t get me wrong, you do not understand war. You do not understand war crimes. You do not understand the difference between them.

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                1 year ago

                Honestly you have not been helpful with that. If I don’t understand something you could explain it. What is the difference between them that I’m missing?

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            1 year ago

            If Israel did their job right there would be no Hamas. If the police did their job right there would arguably be no such thing as crime, yet the police can accept when they’re imperfect, nobody is above criticism here and neither should Israel be, don’t let your ego blind you from the reality of the circumstances and the actual events at hand.