1. never signed up for anything like this,
  2. never donated to or signed up for emails from the DNC, et al.,
  3. political texts like this come all the time, and
  4. I hesitate to reply “stop” because I don’t want them to know this is a live number (is my instinct here outdated/inapplicable?)
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    Skin colour is a complete continuum, and one which doesn’t very in any uniform way based on geography, aside from the darkest people coming recently from Africa.

    By this logic, ear size is a race.

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      4 months ago

      Yes! You’re getting it. Ear size is an aspect of race. As is hair texture and height and all the other inheritable phenotypes. Skin color is just the most visibly obvious one.

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        4 months ago

        Well, words can mean whatever you want, but usually race refers to the discrete-ish social categories that have been constructed based roughly on specific phenotypes. For example Black people were a discrete legal category for most of America’s history, and were nominally 3/5 of a person and treated as much less. Now, they have equal legal rights on paper, but the category remains informally.

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          That’s an academic ivory tower definition that they invented and no one else uses. Even the blatant racists who sorted races into these social categories did so based on physical appearance. You didn’t see any dark skin people allowed to use facilities that said “whites only”.

          It’s based on physical appearance, which is based on phenotype.

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            4 months ago

            That’s what I said!

            but usually race refers to the discrete-ish social categories that have been constructed based roughly on specific phenotypes.

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              For example Black people were a discrete legal category

              THAT is not a race. That is treatment of a race. That is 100% a social construct.

              Race itself is a real biological thing that exists. Not a pure social construct.

              Stop conflating them.

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                I really don’t think most people use this definition. Like, would you say “what race are you” is a grammatically incorrect question, then? And what about “hispanic” as a racial descriptor? How do you be hispanic-er than someone else?

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                  Like, would you say “what race are you” is a grammatically incorrect question, then?

                  No? That question is totally in line with the definition of race I gave.

                  The census says “hispanic” is an ethnicity rather than a race. I disagree; I think that’s splitting hairs.

                  How do you be hispanic-er than someone else?

                  I’m 1/4 Hispanic. My mom was half Hispanic (Mexican mother, European father…not saying the country = race before you get your panties in a twist, it’s just a fucking shorthand, everyone knows that most Mexicans are Hispanic and most Europeans are not). My mom is more Hispanic than me. Fairly simple concept.

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                    Right, so what’s the Hispanic phenotype? As far as anyone can tell it’s a language, which isn’t a phenotype, and until someone brown opens their mouth they could just as easily be an Arab or a particularly tawny Italian. Or are Arabs Hispanic, too?