1.34% of the American population, the third largest religion in the US behind Christianity and Judaism.
I’m also going to point out that voting based on what’s happening to people who share your religion in a foreign country is a TERRIBLE idea. If you make that your voting priority, it will bite you in the face in other aspects of your life because someone will exploit you for their own ends. The same is pretty much true for any single issue voter.
We’re all free to be stupid, but it probably won’t end well.
tldr - the stupid FPTP system in the US means we effectively are stuck between two candidates, GOP and Dem, and of the two, the GOP one would be much much worse. So without endorsing they still recommend voting for the Dem candidate for President - while also voting down the ballot for candidates who better represent their views (and might be able to make the future President listen or at least rein the President in - e.g. enough Dem House Reps might be able to table a future bill to increase arms sales to Israel).
The most useful thing individuals can do to change or enact specific policy is to get involved in party politics, because the party platforms are decided internally and either becoming a party delegate, or working to garner votes from delegates for particular policies actually works.
How about based on whats happening to people that dont share my religion? Because what is happening is so horrific it doesnt matter what group they belong to, it must be stopped.
When was the last time you posted about the other genocides going on? Do you even know which ones I’m talking about?
Or are you just following the social context around the Israel-Palestine conflict and ignoring the fact that there are multiple other major genocides occurring right now? One of them has had a few hundred thousand kids forcibly separated from their parents and sent to special boarding schools, the other is at almost a half million deaths, both dwarfing the scale of the Israeli-Palestine conflict by almost an order of magnitude.
How about them? Where’s the university protests? Where’s the demands for divestment? You haven’t even made a single comment or post about any of them from what I can see.
Nah, this one is the fad genocide to be all upset about right now.
Its got 2 other ongoing genocides, neither of which with deaths anywhere near what youre talking about. One for Ukraine which Ive definitely commented on and condemned. And a different one also affecting muslims.
The forcibly separated kids one isn’t even listed there, because China has done everything it can to scrub it from public knowledge, it’s linked to an older one in there though. The Uyghurs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
Nope. Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
If you really want to avoid a Trump win, supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward. :)
1.34% of the American population, the third largest religion in the US behind Christianity and Judaism.
I’m also going to point out that voting based on what’s happening to people who share your religion in a foreign country is a TERRIBLE idea. If you make that your voting priority, it will bite you in the face in other aspects of your life because someone will exploit you for their own ends. The same is pretty much true for any single issue voter.
We’re all free to be stupid, but it probably won’t end well.
So I’ve been thinking, if I was in these folks shoes, what should I be doing?
I think the Uncommitted movement nailed it on the head: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/19/harris-uncommitted-movement-declines-endorse
tldr - the stupid FPTP system in the US means we effectively are stuck between two candidates, GOP and Dem, and of the two, the GOP one would be much much worse. So without endorsing they still recommend voting for the Dem candidate for President - while also voting down the ballot for candidates who better represent their views (and might be able to make the future President listen or at least rein the President in - e.g. enough Dem House Reps might be able to table a future bill to increase arms sales to Israel).
The most useful thing individuals can do to change or enact specific policy is to get involved in party politics, because the party platforms are decided internally and either becoming a party delegate, or working to garner votes from delegates for particular policies actually works.
I feel like this is a part of what I said in the other comment on this post, about needing to build up from the grassroots. Agreed.
How about based on whats happening to people that dont share my religion? Because what is happening is so horrific it doesnt matter what group they belong to, it must be stopped.
When was the last time you posted about the other genocides going on? Do you even know which ones I’m talking about?
Or are you just following the social context around the Israel-Palestine conflict and ignoring the fact that there are multiple other major genocides occurring right now? One of them has had a few hundred thousand kids forcibly separated from their parents and sent to special boarding schools, the other is at almost a half million deaths, both dwarfing the scale of the Israeli-Palestine conflict by almost an order of magnitude.
How about them? Where’s the university protests? Where’s the demands for divestment? You haven’t even made a single comment or post about any of them from what I can see.
Nah, this one is the fad genocide to be all upset about right now.
Ill bite, wikipedia has no idea what youre talking about either
Yes it does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides
Its got 2 other ongoing genocides, neither of which with deaths anywhere near what youre talking about. One for Ukraine which Ive definitely commented on and condemned. And a different one also affecting muslims.
You must not have scrolled down far enough, there’s one that’s been going on for 20+ years in Sudan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023–present)
The forcibly separated kids one isn’t even listed there, because China has done everything it can to scrub it from public knowledge, it’s linked to an older one in there though. The Uyghurs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
The Muslim population in swings states is larger than the margin Biden won in 2020.
The Muslim population isn’t a single voting bloc, and a good chunk are still voting Democrat.
On the flip side, the Jewish population is almost twice the size of the Muslim population, so pissing them off is probably worse.
It is indeed a very tough balancing act that needs to be done here.
Fair points.
Should be a fun election night!
Any vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third-party candidate and is giving it to Trump.
I think you may have got your order muddled up.
Nope. Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
If you really want to avoid a Trump win, supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward. :)
Nice try but that’s in no way nearing reality. It is however, intentionally enraging. What a great guy.