• FireTower@lemmy.world
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    1. You aren’t allowed to / really shouldn’t be say it if you aren’t Black.

    2. Presumably under this notion someone anonymous who says it should be abiding that cultural norm.

    3. Meaning that if an anonymous person is saying it and you expect them to abide that norm it’d be reasonable to assume they’re Black.

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      I’m really still in the camp that there are no bad words. Only bad intent. That said, I’ve got no use for the word. It’s practically a worthless word.

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        Tbh I still think that I shouldn’t have to censor myself if I want to sing any song by any black person since about 1985, (nor just avoid singing any song from the most popular black music of the past 40yr because “it was made by black people so I can’t sing it,”) “black music is only for ‘the blacks’ you can’t enjoy other cultures!” sounds almost more racist to me than me singing the real words instead of:

        Bitch you thirsty please grab a sprite, my crips lurking don’t die tonight, I just wanna dance with you baby, man down down the ave it gets shady, take a neighbor’s mind off that we can dip fuck in the whip slide right back in the function one wrong word start bustin’ put that on my yankee’s hat, I’m a gangsta crip, fuck gangsta rap, where the ladies at where da hoes where da bitches? Every real neighbor know tha difference, bandana brown like the dope daddy shootin’ in the kitchen, real norf side neighbor never went to wilson or cabrillo, cocaine color of a creole, T-scrap moving for the d-lo and he know…

        I mean, I do it, so don’t jump down my throat or anything because I’m already complying with the demand at large, but I disagree that it’s a racist practice to sing the words as written by the author who wrote them simply because I’m of another race. (Unless it’s like a David Allen Coe song, c’mon ykwim, rap music and stuff.)

        Other than that I’ll agree it’s an entirely useless word, even if nobody cared I’d only say it then, when singing a song by a black artist I like. It’s kinda hard sometimes to switch the word too, you try and sing LaLa by Tity Boi ft Busta replacing all the words and tell me you didn’t fuck up when Busta said “smoking til a neighbor look a little shitty boy.” Lol.

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          I’m pretty sure quoting “can a nigga borrow a french fry”, “Now how is a nigga gonna borrow a fry” in almost any format that isn’t your workplace is fine. Same thing with singing songs.

          Just don’t be fucking scummy when using words as slurs. That’s all people gotta do. But people keep using it as a slur, so it’s just easier to not say it. Yes, it would be nice if it was magically yeeted out of the cultural lexicon. Words only have the power we give to them.

          I’m personally not a fan of saying N-word, N****, or anything like that anyway. You’re literally just making other people say ‘nigga’ in their head but absolving yourself of the guilt of saying it through silly pc terms.

          E: Short of being a newscaster and quoting a hate crime, it’s about the only time ‘N-word’ should be used now anyway lol. Just use any other number of words to talk to your friends or enemies in a loving or hating manner. Taking words back is fine and all so they have less power over people. But when you take it back, but still make it have power, then it’s kinda fucking pointless since you’re perpetuating it’s stereotypical use still lol.

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            Depends on who you ask, some people are ok with it, like us, but some people will tell everyone in your friend group that you’re a racist because of it, or even use physical violence in retaliation in some cases (or stuff like that).

            I agree though with everything else!

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        Slurs about a community are often not to be said by anyone but a person in that community trying to reclaim the slur. Maybe it should be “no one is allowed to say slurs,” but there seems to be healing involved in taking back those words.

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        It’s a slur so… saying it is what makes people think you’re racist lol.

        I generally assume if someone is using the n-word anonymously that they’re either black or a racist.

        It’s not like people have arbitrarily decided that only asians can say the word refrigerator- there’s history behind the word.

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        It has a lot to do with the word being used pretty recently historically in a horrible context.

        Also keep in mind that in the US, there are genuinely still plenty of actually racist people. In fact, there are still people using the slur as a slur. I don’t think it’s very odd culturally if you consider this.

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        Assuming you’re not from America here, white people enslaved black people and called them “n-----s”. For a white person to use that word, is to hearken back to a time when white people owned black people, and the vast majority of white people agree with this notion and refrain from saying it.