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Here’s the original for higher quality
Relevant xkcd about these xkcd’s:
I believe it’s mandatory to add jpeg when linking to that comic.
Eh my amps scale is from 0 to 32 bit intiger limit. (it’s just as loud as the ones that go from 0 to 11)
My peavey modeling amp was very proud that it went up to 13! :}
For $2000? Is this comic from the 50s?
11 is one louder than 10!
No 11 is much less than 3,628,800
I feel like the last one is a marketer, not a smart engineer.
Capitalist engineer.
Sales executive. Paid more than engineers, is substantially dumber.
Yeah but it’s where the real magic happens and the company would fall about without them because they’re irreplaceable.
I prefer my dials in base 16, my amp goes to F.
Wonder what that’d look like to a layman. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9… Awesome? Beastly? Crushing? Deafening? Ear-shattering? Fuck that’s loud?
Mineis also base 16 and goes to 10. Which one is louder?
Yours is one louder
Just for the record… it has to do with practicality.
the notches are spaced similar to a clock, but with the deadzone most potentiometers have, it doesn’t go a full 360 around, so they stop at 11. This makes for an intuitive scale with familiar spacing on the notches- even if it is entirely arbitrary.
This is not at all the case.
Most potentiometers have a full rotation or 270°, sometimes up to 300°. By convention the mid-travel is at 12 o’clock. That would make the 0 around 7:30 and the 10 around 4:30.
That’s not the history of that thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven
so they stop at 11
you mean 10, most amps stop at 10.
At the 11 o’clock position, I think they mean. That’s a bit arbitrary tho
Even the 11 clock position makes no sense, most amps will go from 8 to 4.
Edit, I see what they did. In the picture they used 7 to 5 o’clock as min/max, (which is essentially the same as my 8-4). For some reason they adapted the o’clock numbers to the dial number which is not helpful.
The o’clock numbers are meant to be a static reference point with 12 always at the top most position. You don’t bend the clock scale to match the knob min/max.
Based off of my peripheral I really thought that deadzone was Saddam for a second
dammit.
missed an opportunity…
The difference between engineering and sales engineering
Some Peavey amps do go to 12
Yup anyone who as umlaut to an n will buy anything for “cool factor”
This comment is like a New York Times daily game “which word is the typo?”
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40 years ago someone made a joke
So it’s smart to scam people. Interesting take.
It said “smart”, not “morally right”.
We live in a capitalist world, scamming is objectively how we base how successful and smart someone is.
I’m gonna scam this amp to turn up to 12.
Celebrating selfishness and deception is just that, no matter how warped the perception of a theoretical majority of people might be. Perpetuating such nonsense will only cause more harm in the future. It’s not a sign of good behaviour or even mental health to be well adapted to a broken system.
So yeah, not “smart”. Disgusting.
I can agree with you but also recognize that’s contrary to the entirety of modern human society except ~7 countries representing just under 1/4th the GL bal population. But even then not really. I agree with the idea, but that’s not going to be the world we live in without truly ridiculous amounts of violence (which I am not advocating)
It’s not a “take” it’s a joke
sigh even jokes communicate stuff; they’re especially powerful in normalizing things.
I’m aware people hate it when someone criticizes jokes. However when bad stuff gets normalized it’s necessary to point that out.
No, the joke wouldn’t have been as funny if it said “scammer” instead of “smart engineer”. Plus, I think it’s more a jab at engineers rather than anything. Because most would rather argue/explain the whole 10 vs 11 thing than just go "ok, sure, I can do that " and get paid.
It’s just a prank bro! /s
You’re a moron to think this is about scamming someone. The smart engineer realized he can offer a louder option but didn’t want to disturb the preset settings the customer is used to. If anything, not only is the engineer smart but empathetic towards how troublesome learning a new tool is like. Let me tell you it is not a problem that the volume is not standardized. Instead, it is nice to know that the customer can choose options he is familiar with AND now has a setting to go louder. Of course the much smarter way is to make the dial more analog input than a digital input. However, the digital dial will not move as easily when bumped. Trade-offs were made. For aesthetics and function. Yes I know some music nerds who like the dial more than a touch button.
Now don’t get me started with how they can sell it however they want. If it is louder than the product it is comparing against and the buyer likes it then it is not a scam, it was a fair trade.
Yes it is possible to look at this image with different what-ifs, and from what I see, you are only looking at the what-if where the “smart engineer” is not even acting as an engineer but rather a con artist. If we were to take the meme more literally then the what-if I have explained above is more true to the intentions of the characters in it than your narrow interpretation.
/EndRant
Isn’t the joke that the smart engineer will change the labels on the knob since they don’t have any unit? That’s the scammy aspect. I don’t think OC finds the idea of selling a better amp immoral
