“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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    They keep giving us candidates nobody fucking wants and keep being surprised when they lose

    And then it creates all this infighting where we’re all blaming each other for being Bernie bros or third party protest voters when in reality it’s the regular joes on the street who need to be convinced to give a fuck about their candidate, not terminally online hyperpolitical dweebs

    The democrats are just gonna keep losing and our climate is going to slip deeper and deeper past the point of no return. Earths climate, our political climate, our social fabric, all of it. Slowly but surely being pissed down the drain because Joe Biden thought he should run despite middling approval ratings and massive health concerns, leaving us with literally zero choice but to back Harris once he inevitably stepped down. Because we had so called “superdelegates” choosing our candidates for us in the 2016 election when we were actually able to finally build a massive grassroots movement spearheaded by the Sanders campaign.

    We’re gonna keep losing, and we’re gonna keep blaming each other, and the ruling class are just gonna keep sinking their claws deeper into what used to be ours.

    I’ll see you all again in four years, same time, same place, same fucking rigamarole

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      It’s why I stopped voting altogether. Last time I voted in general elections was 2008. Last time I primaried was for Bernie in 16. Only time I ever donated money, too.

      Fuck the Democrats. They made it clear they want Republican voters more than than they want me

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        Don’t vote, don’t get to complain.

        Not saying that you have to vote when you dislike the options given. But you do have other options. Like spoiling your ballot, or nullify your ballot.

        Yes the results are the same, but by voting this way, you are actively participating in your democratic process. While not voting at all you are not. And if you do not participate, in my view, you cannot complain about the results.

        Oh and if you don’t know how, on election day just ask the poll workers. They should’ve been trained on how to handle it.

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          Nullifying a ballot… So you say I should get off my sofa and go all the way to town to nullify my ballot?

          LOL no I’ll just sit at home and make liberals cry tears of anger while they feign enthusiasm for their dogshit candidate

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        It’s why I stopped voting altogether.

        Thanks for letting me no to never pay attention to anything you say.

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          And thanks for not letting me pay attention to you. lol

          You really can’t keep blaming the voters guys, it the politician and surprise surprise you can can’t force an entire party’s nominee without a proper primary

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            If they didn’t vote, they’re not a voter. Non-voters get their fair share of the blame, and non-voters who want to complain get shamed.

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                How I “want” you to vote is pragmatically. If you vote 3rd party in a FPTP election, you’re pragmatically indistinguishable from a non-voter.

                If you’re a leftist, the pragmatic strategy is to recognize the ratchet effect and vote for the “halt movement” party over the “full send fascism” party. It’s much easier to push leftist policies and promote leftist representatives under a neo-liberal regime than under a fascist one. At the absolute minimum the neo-liberals decelerate the plunge into fascism.

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                    What? No it isn’t. Fascism is fascism, neo-liberalism is neo-liberalism. You can certainly make a compelling argument that neo-liberalism eventually begets fascism. But fascism is already fascism, it’s not waiting to be begotten.

                    When the viable options are the road to fascism, or the destination itself, non-fascists are best served choosing the road. At least on the road you have a chance of slowing down or steering down an alternate road, or even turning around as remote as that possibility is. When you’re at the destination, it’s too late.

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      Liberals seem to get real uppity when you remind them how actual holders of leftist beliefs in the general US population are almost nonexistent and all third party votes added together wouldn’t have saved Harris.

      Although if liberals were capable of using logic, they wouldn’t be liberals. You even see it in their hilarious Lemmy tantrums, they are genuinely so confused and lost.

      If only leftists were there saying exactly what they were doing wrong and exactly what would happen for literally the last four years.

      Oh wait. We were. Weird how Marx and Lenin continue to be proven right by history again and again.

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        Help me parse this logic. I’m having trouble figuring out how “Leftists are much too small and insignificant a demographic to make a meaningful difference in elections, therefore Democrats should implement leftist political strategy” makes any sense.