Some other country is gonna have the new nasa, and the united states is going to fall even further behind. It’ll just be a brain drain and most of it isn’t going to go to space-x.
If you’re a fundamental researcher, engineer, etc. come to the UK. We’ve got SO many job openings for those roles and would love to bring in talent to fill those roles because the local gammon isn’t up to the job.
How much is your health insurance & car repayments cutting into your pay? What are your legal minimum days off? How many maternity/paternity days off is your employer legally required to give you? What are your employee rights? How walkable is your current city or do you require a car to literally go anywhere? It’s a trade-off.
While you raise good points that should be kept in mind for anyone considering this, in my case (a very specific and incredibly in-demand type of data management) my last position was a great deal better than any offering for the same job in the UK, even including all the public benefits you guys get.
I left that job for personal health reasons (and I got a full year of unemployment from it). I’m lucky, I’m very aware of that. Most people don’t have it anywhere near as good as I did. But for my field, even factoring in all those benefits from the public sector you get in the UK, I was doing way better here than I could have been in the UK (ex: I was making 4x the maximum wage for my field in the UK (tops out at £45,000)). Also my state has a requirement for 4 months of [ma/pa/xa]ternity leave, which isn’t great but is still a huge improvement. And I get 5 weeks leave. And I was union. And and and 'murica blahblah I’ll spare you.
For all the many many problems America has, this is one of the few areas where the UK is somehow even worse than us. Your wages for skilled technical positions are absolutely criminal for the value you produce for employers, and for such a sometimes progressive country it’s mindboggling to me that you haven’t made a bigger issue of it. It’s a huge contributor to the brain drain so many EU countries are experiencing (even Germany, who is much better about this than the UK, is feeling this) - the US is a backwards country slowly imploding into fascism, but who’s country isn’t? At least you can come over here and make bank in the little time before everything burns down around them, instead of having a somewhat comfortable lower-middleclass life in some subdiv row house.
(This me being defensive I confess: my city is one of the most walkable in the world. I think the “americans can only drive anywhere” thing gets a little bit blown out of proportion because people don’t understand the magnitude of the rural/urban divide in the US.)
Some other country is gonna have the new nasa, and the united states is going to fall even further behind. It’ll just be a brain drain and most of it isn’t going to go to space-x.
Any suggestions on where to emigrate? Asking for a friend
If you’re a fundamental researcher, engineer, etc. come to the UK. We’ve got SO many job openings for those roles and would love to bring in talent to fill those roles because the local gammon isn’t up to the job.
I wish I could, but good grief I’d be cutting my pay down to 25% if I moved to the UK
How much is your health insurance & car repayments cutting into your pay? What are your legal minimum days off? How many maternity/paternity days off is your employer legally required to give you? What are your employee rights? How walkable is your current city or do you require a car to literally go anywhere? It’s a trade-off.
Paternity: time your pregnancy to coincide with the start of an X year contract, or they simply won’t renew it.
While you raise good points that should be kept in mind for anyone considering this, in my case (a very specific and incredibly in-demand type of data management) my last position was a great deal better than any offering for the same job in the UK, even including all the public benefits you guys get.
I left that job for personal health reasons (and I got a full year of unemployment from it). I’m lucky, I’m very aware of that. Most people don’t have it anywhere near as good as I did. But for my field, even factoring in all those benefits from the public sector you get in the UK, I was doing way better here than I could have been in the UK (ex: I was making 4x the maximum wage for my field in the UK (tops out at £45,000)). Also my state has a requirement for 4 months of [ma/pa/xa]ternity leave, which isn’t great but is still a huge improvement. And I get 5 weeks leave. And I was union. And and and
'muricablahblah I’ll spare you.For all the many many problems America has, this is one of the few areas where the UK is somehow even worse than us. Your wages for skilled technical positions are absolutely criminal for the value you produce for employers, and for such a
sometimesprogressive country it’s mindboggling to me that you haven’t made a bigger issue of it. It’s a huge contributor to the brain drain so many EU countries are experiencing (even Germany, who is much better about this than the UK, is feeling this) - the US is a backwards country slowly imploding into fascism, but who’s country isn’t? At least you can come over here and make bank in the little time before everything burns down around them, instead of having a somewhat comfortable lower-middleclass life in some subdiv row house.(This me being defensive I confess: my city is one of the most walkable in the world. I think the “americans can only drive anywhere” thing gets a little bit blown out of proportion because people don’t understand the magnitude of the rural/urban divide in the US.)
Max pay is around 50k. Its better than most, for sure, but academics get treated way better in US or Germany
And if I’m not one of those things? 🫣
Nurse, doctor, I’d say come to the UK because there’s a shortage in the NHS but the pay and conditions are better in Australia.