• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Let’s not pretend here. Over half of America voted for him this time. Last time almost half of America voted for him.

    This is America. You can blame russia, you can blame whoever, but still the end of the day this is America and Americans fault.

    Go talk to the 60% of white people in this country who voted for him and make them realize that they are idiots and racists. Then maybe you’ll get a change.

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      7 days ago

      Nope, less than half of eligible voters did in fact vote for Trump. This is quite less than half of America in addition.

      63% of eligible voters voted in 2024 and 49% of the popular vote went to Orange Hitler.

      155000000 out of 244000000 voters voted roughly. About 76000000 voted for the orange pedo, which is about 23% of the USA’s population of 336000000.

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      Not half the population. Using approximates:

      US population: 345 million

      Can vote: 245 million

      Did actually vote: 156 million (63%)

      Voted drump: Just over half (78 million or 50.5%) of those that voted

      US population who voted for tangerine: Around 22%, or 1 in 4

      US population who could vote and did vote for tangerine: 31%, or 1 in 3

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        No, you can blame propaganda telling those voters in safe states to stay home. So even tho Trump won the electoral college handily, those stupid fuckers fell for the crap because they’re fucking lazy and gave him both houses of Congress and a slew of right wing state level govts.

        Non-voters paved the path for dicktaster Trump because so many people bitched and moaned about votes “not counting” (yes they fucking do, 99.99% of races aren’t the president) and propagandists picked up on that and amplified the hell out of that message.

        Note: no evidence, just my own angry rant about my own observations of this last election

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          Yeah. I figured the repubs are the ‘take charge, get shit done’ people and the Dems are more like the ‘John Lennon hippie types more interested in virtue signalling than action’ types. Good feelings don’t get results I guess. Who knew? Shrugs now the copium seems to point blame at the system and candidates instead of owning their choice (apparently also a Dem trait). The rest of the world doesn’t thank those who sat it out. They should be ashamed.

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        I don’t think it’s as bad as people think. We have all believed, believe, and will believe misinformation. It’s a part of being human.

        You are prompted to check at some point; someone tells you you’re wrong, you are curious, things feel incongruous, whatever. You find out you’re wrong and you update your shit. Easy, life goes on.

        But certain people seem to actively shop for rhetoric that will look good on their shelves. You tell them they’re wrong and they dig in. They usually have no filter and say their ideas out loud even if it denigrates others.

        It’s like propaganda is a chemical being injected that binds with cancer cells so you can more easily see them with the naked eye. The chemical touches everything but it “reacts” with the cancer.

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        Yeah propaganda exists but the point is that this is already who the US has shown themselves to be. It is and has been a racist oligarchy for as long as I’ve been alive, and most likely longer.

        The second Obama won you had shitheads burning efficiency of him or hanging him from trees.

        My point is it’s easy to blame Russian interference, etc. It’s harder to look inwards and realize that oh hey, this country is actually just not thatbgreat and we’ve been living on lies for the last 80 years.

        It is deeply, deeply racist and always has been. It is deeply oligarchical, and always has been.

        There is more in common with modern day russia than there is with any civilized 1st world country in western Europe.

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          Love that typo, autocorrect strikes again. But I wouldn’t say the country is deeply, deeply racist. That just feels a little harsh. It’s racist for sure, but I would reserve the double deep for when slavery was still allowed. Also I think it is a bit of human nature to be racist in that humans naturally form groups, and race is an easy way to do it for a lot of people. Humans just haven’t evolved at the same rate our technology and society have. You have to put effort into not being racist (unconscious bias) and a lot of people just don’t know that. Others don’t care. The number of countries that are more racist than the US is probably greater than those that are less. We still all have a lot of work to do, but it’s going to take time.

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            I deeply disagree with this. You are not born a rasist and this is something you have to work against. Young children are not rasist, it is created by society and the enviroment you grow up in. Don’t call it human nature. Yeah, if you meet person from a tribe that has never seen a white person before they will think you look funny, but they wont mistreat you. Rasist mistreats you for looking different. In today and age it is beyond bullshit to say you have never seen person of color before so that excuse is not enough either.

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              That tribe in india disagrees with you. They kill anyone not part of thier tribe on sight. But I will agree that kids aren’t born racist. But human nature causes humans to form groups for protection. So they learn race is an easy group to form and identify. Society sure doesn’t help prevent it much either.

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      This. I wish they’d stop blaming others and take ownership of their vote, or choice to sit it out. Instead. everything from Biden, to Kamala following Biden, to the Dems being a mess, to whats happening in Ukraine and Gaza, etc seems to be more important. Fools.