• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    Fair point but I don’t think it applies here. Balanced doesn’t necessarily mean a compromise.

    In your first example Golden Mean would be to take antibiotics until you are fully cured not less not more.

    Same for your second example. Going too far in autocracy would could mean efficiency but also injustice and going too far into democracy could mean nothing ever gets accomplished due to endless indecision. This is exactly what elective democracy is so effective imo as it’s a Golden Mean of these two edges.

    That’s what Golden Mean means - the center is where magic happens and the edges are always full of failure.

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      23 hours ago

      Depends on the type of distribution too. In some discrete cases there isn’t a mean value. A binary choice for example has no applicability of the golden mean. Like a two party system. If neither represents your values, you can only choose the one that mostly does. Which is not the optimal outcome, just the local maxima.

      The golden mean argument also assumes that there is only one good soulution, where multiple equally good ones can exist too.

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        23 hours ago

        I think you fundamentally misunderstand Golden Mean if you argument against it with statistics and I’ll leave it here.

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          23 hours ago

          If I mix water and cement there is a distribution of the two, a ratio if you will. Just because statistics deals with distributions (of probabilities for example) doesn’t mean all distributions are in the field of statistics.

          I’ll leave it at that.

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              20 hours ago

              As hard as it may be to believe, I can’t eat metaphysics for put a roof above my head with it. Even Plato didn’t sit on perfect abstract chairs or ate abstract apples.

              Here’s another argument I thought of in the meanwhile:

              1. If we accept that the rule of golden mean is universal, then it necessarily applies to itself. Thus, the correct use of the rule is somewhere between the absolutes of not applying it at all and applying it to everything. There are circumstances in which it shouldn’t be used.

              2. If we don’t accept the rule as universally true, then there are circumstances in which it shouldn’t be used.

              QED