How about the lemmy people who actively campaigned for trump and attacked anyone for Biden because Biden was anti Palestine. Those people can go fuck themselves. Its a guarantee they swayed votes to trump based on lies.
If the fascists running israel, the fascists running the us, the DNC, and all the other people that are to blame for this outcome were on Lemmy, you’d see us arguing against them a lot more
Clearly it’s the leftists, they personally didn’t vote or voted third party or voted for Trump or whatever we need to say to deflect blame, and they did it in every swing state! It’s their fault, not the candidate!
This is sort of strawmanning some of the criticism. Leftists who held up nonvoting as some kind of magic bullet for gaza definitely seem like they are dumber than rocks for thinking nonvoting is the same as strategic voting.
However, There’s a bunch of like consultants and dem strategists that have clung to this to scapegoat these people as though there wasn’t a long chain of massive errors dems and their braindead consultants weren’t heavily involved in.
At the end of the day just stop listening to “not voting is a moral stance” people and put fires under the real culprits: lying republican media and apathetic democrat politicians
Look, it’s time to take stock and move ahead, we need to focus on the here and now and try to do some good, and prevent some bad.
To that end, I recommend that both liberals and leftists focus on performatively scolding imaginary interlocutors from the other group over semi anonymous forums.
Liberalism doesnt fucking exist in America, its called neoliberalism and its racist af. Do you all not realize how far right wing America actually is or do you just love to play stupid?
(But neoliberalism is by definition a branch of liberalism, a broad ideological grouping that includes America when it had widespread chattel slavery and Manifest Destiny)
It’s the Palestinian Muslim Leftists who have completely overrun our beloved liberal institutions and undermined them. These tankies are the fifth column that brought Harris’s glorious march to office down from the inside.
We clearly need to purge our companies, our schools, and our political organizations of anyone who resembles, aligns with, or appears to look like a Palestinian or a Leftist sympathizer.
We absolutely must do this in order to Beat Trump. You do want to Beat Trump, don’t you?
Keep COVID-19 away from the public eye as trump wanted
Keep Mexicans in cages like Trump wanted
Build the wall using federal funding despite several federal laws saying we can’t, like Trump wanted
Allow the erosion of rights for BIPOC like Trump wanted
Allow for the removal of rights for women, like Trump wanted
Allow for the removal of rights for trans people in red states, like Trump wanted
Fund genocide because it’s good for my 3000 year old book, like Trump wanted
Boast about how we’ll have the biggest military, like Trump wanted.
And do nothing to help the population with inflated prices of housing, rent, medical needs, groceries, and say we did all we could and you should be thankful the economy is doing great, like Trump wanted!
Anything else is Dreamland! Why wouldn’t I want what Trump stans want? I want to court them so much I’ll vote for anyone who’s on the blue team, no matter how much they hate me!
Vote in support of unqualified and fascist Cabinet members even when your vote doesn’t matter one bit to signal that you have absolutely no qualms with playing on Team Destroy What Little Democracy America Has
I personally can’t wait for them to corralled all those men who are trans! They should be punished! They should chop off their dicks. Then I could probably get mine extended uhh 2 or 3 more inches would be totally fine.
Its good to mock those couple hundred people anyway, but to blame them for it is scapegoating. They’re obviously kind of dumb but yeah like Joe Biden running for re-election is like probably the #1 dick that Democrats tripped over. Campaigning with abysmally unpopular Cheneys, buying ads on republican media instead of knocking on doors or spending money on dem neutral media, focusing too much on trump instead of on strengths, moving right on immigration all contributed.
2024 was nothing less than a strategic clusterfuck.
Dems should run primaries even when they’re running for re-election. Its free coverage and right wing media has to address it.
But they are still running primaries? If talking about the presidential specifically, they did a typical primary in 2020 and sure in 2024 it was not done, but we’ve got people blaming “real primaries” against incumbents for losses in 76, 80, and 92 and neither party does it as a result.
Neither party runs presidential primaries when their guy is incumbent. It’s almost superstitious, that having someone ‘primary’ your incumbent is going to make them lose (because of losses under those circumstances by Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr.
Of course the cause/effect is backwards, they were primaried because their administration was at risk, they weren’t at risk because of the primary, but as superstitions go…
Alright new atrocity from Israel just dropped, who should we blame:
The fascists running Israelthe fascists running the USthe democratic party who teed up the atrocityHow about the lemmy people who actively campaigned for trump and attacked anyone for Biden because Biden was anti Palestine. Those people can go fuck themselves. Its a guarantee they swayed votes to trump based on lies.
Which Lemmy voter actively campaigned for Trump?
All of the above, plus:
If the fascists running israel, the fascists running the us, the DNC, and all the other people that are to blame for this outcome were on Lemmy, you’d see us arguing against them a lot more
Leftists, regardless of how they voted.
Clearly it’s the leftists, they personally didn’t vote or voted third party or voted for Trump or whatever we need to say to deflect blame, and they did it in every swing state! It’s their fault, not the candidate!
This is sort of strawmanning some of the criticism. Leftists who held up nonvoting as some kind of magic bullet for gaza definitely seem like they are dumber than rocks for thinking nonvoting is the same as strategic voting.
However, There’s a bunch of like consultants and dem strategists that have clung to this to scapegoat these people as though there wasn’t a long chain of massive errors dems and their braindead consultants weren’t heavily involved in.
At the end of the day just stop listening to “not voting is a moral stance” people and put fires under the real culprits: lying republican media and apathetic democrat politicians
Look, it’s time to take stock and move ahead, we need to focus on the here and now and try to do some good, and prevent some bad.
To that end, I recommend that both liberals and leftists focus on performatively scolding imaginary interlocutors from the other group over semi anonymous forums.
The neoliberal Dems are currently rubber stamping Trump’s fascist agenda
They aren’t interested in helping people.
Liberalism doesnt fucking exist in America, its called neoliberalism and its racist af. Do you all not realize how far right wing America actually is or do you just love to play stupid?
It’s very nice of you to assume it’s an act.
(But neoliberalism is by definition a branch of liberalism, a broad ideological grouping that includes America when it had widespread chattel slavery and Manifest Destiny)
It’s the Palestinian Muslim Leftists who have completely overrun our beloved liberal institutions and undermined them. These tankies are the fifth column that brought Harris’s glorious march to office down from the inside.
We clearly need to purge our companies, our schools, and our political organizations of anyone who resembles, aligns with, or appears to look like a Palestinian or a Leftist sympathizer.
We absolutely must do this in order to Beat Trump. You do want to Beat Trump, don’t you?
I sure do! So we must:
Anything else is Dreamland! Why wouldn’t I want what Trump stans want? I want to court them so much I’ll vote for anyone who’s on the blue team, no matter how much they hate me!
I personally can’t wait for them to corralled all those men who are trans! They should be punished! They should chop off their dicks. Then I could probably get mine extended uhh 2 or 3 more inches would be totally fine.
Its good to mock those couple hundred people anyway, but to blame them for it is scapegoating. They’re obviously kind of dumb but yeah like Joe Biden running for re-election is like probably the #1 dick that Democrats tripped over. Campaigning with abysmally unpopular Cheneys, buying ads on republican media instead of knocking on doors or spending money on dem neutral media, focusing too much on trump instead of on strengths, moving right on immigration all contributed.
2024 was nothing less than a strategic clusterfuck.
Dems should run primaries even when they’re running for re-election. Its free coverage and right wing media has to address it.
They stopped running primaries because they almost lost control of the party to Bernie Sanders in 2016.
The DNC will never make that mistake again. It made their doners very upset.
But they are still running primaries? If talking about the presidential specifically, they did a typical primary in 2020 and sure in 2024 it was not done, but we’ve got people blaming “real primaries” against incumbents for losses in 76, 80, and 92 and neither party does it as a result.
Neither party runs presidential primaries when their guy is incumbent. It’s almost superstitious, that having someone ‘primary’ your incumbent is going to make them lose (because of losses under those circumstances by Ford, Carter, and Bush Sr.
Of course the cause/effect is backwards, they were primaried because their administration was at risk, they weren’t at risk because of the primary, but as superstitions go…