• edric@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Everyone needs to see Rammstein live at least once in their lives.

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      9 months ago

      How about we don’t encourage a rapist instead?

      Edit: Can’t believe my comment is in the negative right now… Is the majority around here rape apologists or something?

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        9 months ago

        We aren’t rapist apologists. But the investigation was dropped due to a lack of evidence. What else can people do to proof their innocence to people like you?

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            9 months ago

            People in here be acting like getting roofied enhances your memory, they don’t remember shit because they were drugged

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              9 months ago

              They could have been roofied yeah. Happens sadly at parties. Doesnt mean the band had anything to do with it. Anyways, charges dropped means I consider them not guilty. Everything else would allow accusations alone to destroy lifes even when the accused is not guilty.

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        9 months ago

        Apparently, Lemmy doesn’t believe the man who writes misogynistic lyrics can be sexist. It’s the same all over the internet. Quoting Reddit users:

        a) Rammstein’s lyrics can be rather extreme, as they often include rape, incest, death, sex tourism, necrophilia, etc etc. But are they sexist? No I don’t think so.

        b) A lot of their songs are out of someone’s perspective. Like Ausländer can be perceived as a sexist song written from a perspective a dude (Till lol) shagging his way around the world and seducing local populace with his foreign allure and hilariously low effort “knowledge of the local language”. […] On the other hand what the band actually intended to do is criticize colonialism.

        One does not need to believe the sexual allegations to see that, still, something’s fishy, especially about the lead singer. The lyrics, the orgies, etc. For years, I have disliked songs and interviews because of this, but it all gets the “It’s satire” or “It’s symbolism” pass.

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          9 months ago

          It’s the equivalent of people saying something stupid, arguing about it and when proven wrong they go “I was just acting retarded, you’re the one who’s dumb for believing it!”

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        9 months ago

        There’s one thing that I miss about downloading music and that’s knowing that in some cases it’s good the artist isn’t getting any money. Admittedly I’m happier knowing that most of the artists I listen to get paid now that I stream. I know there’s a huge discussion about how artists don’t get paid enough and I agree but that’s not what I’m talking about.

        Like if I downloaded their music, uploaded as little as I possibly could, then listen to it alone and don’t share, talk about or popularize their work in any way, am I supporting an artist accused of rape? It’s kind of the same argument as ‘if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound’ or ‘death of the artist.’ Now to be frank, there are bands/artists that I don’t listen to on streaming services because I know they will benefit from me listening. Rammstien is one of them.