I’m wondering if I should just delete lemmy to stay under the radar. 🤔 (I’m a US Citizen currently residing in the US, and moving out of the country is not really an option)
I feel so conflicted on this. On one hand, this is kinda like giving in to authoritarianism, but on the other hand, dissenting is kinda dangerous. 😓
Extremely unlikely and possibly physically impossible
Many people commenting of the difficulties in prosecuting people for anti Trump settlements. More likely they will “release” this information for the wider public(maga linch mob)
AI is a big help here. Including at current tech level. But why bother the expense or judicially-complaining process of arresting them, if you can arrange their next Amazon electronics order to explode?
All? Unlikely. But some? A lot harder to say. You’re asking for an opinion-based prediction at this point. I think they’ll probably eventually try to get the most outspoken critics, but I also think that’s a good time to not go silent. You get organized.
Listen at some point its time to realize you dont give a fuck about their threats, accept death as a possibility, and keep to your principles.
Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
Im pretty sure were headed into such an event locally.
I think it’s not feasible to search for anti -trump content and then track down the person, but is much more likely that once they have you they will check your phone to see if you are a dissenter. So any interaction with federal or local authorities will be risky from now on. I just saw a headline of a French scientist being denied entry after immigration searched her phone and found anti Trump messages. If anyone has advice on how to quickly wipe or lockdown a phone, PC, etc. please share. OpSec
GrqpheneOS has a second pin on your lock screen which, when keyed in, immediately makes the storage contents permanently inaccessible, deletes all Esims, and powers the device off. Graphene will remain installed.
There are also “panic button” apps out there that do similar stuff.
Then there’s the good ole, put it in the microwave, or taking a nail-gun to it
Thank you. Instant lock and wipe before handing it over to your friendly neighborhood gestapo holding you gun point is just what we need.
The worst they can do is kill you. Your gonna die eventually anyway, might as well do it for a good cause.
This is why I use a vpn. But he’d have to prosecute half the people or scare half the people. I hope we’ll fight back if that ever happens
It’s more about setting up a system that rewards your neighbour for snitching on you. If that system is practical online, only time will tell. It worked well irl for other fascists.
Please watch this video about dictatorships and what to look out for.
It worked well irl for other fascists.
It is also a hall market every single communist regime.
It is a fun system but as soviets found out is that it get abused for personal reasons and sending everyone who gets reported to Siberia was just a bad economic amf social policy.
The way modidng on socials works, people would be more than happy to have ICE harass people whose opinions they don’t like Because their opinions are the only correct ones to have.
The way modidng on socials works, people would be more than happy to have ICE harass people whose opinions they don’t like
People are literally happy to SWAT other games. You can’t trust anyone with the power to bring shit down on other people.
Great point lol
Plebs are savages to each other and it is never a concern for the regime
I mean, DOGE already downloaded all your personal info. It’s easy to scrape socials and everything from there. What I meant is the ability to v& people en masse from online comments is yet unproven. I have faith that Elmo will find the right 19yo kids for the job though.
Extremely unlikely. Not for another 20 years or so, worst case scenario, and by then they probably won’t care about now.
First off, there’s way too many people who criticize the government to arrest everyone, secondly it’s completely unnecessary. Complaining about the government doesn’t really do anything other than allowing people to vent their frustrations and feel more content. It’s the same way Trump obviously isn’t going to “end elections forever” like people say, virtually every country in the world has elections, regardless of how actually democratic they are, because they’re a nice little ritual that lets you feel free and in control. It would be like saying that Trump is going to knock down the Statue of Liberty - he doesn’t have to.
Now, there are reasons to establish more secure lines of communication, like if you’re involved in actual organizing or if you’re either helping people do illegal things or planning to help people do things that could potentially become illegal - for example, shipping Plan B or trans hormones to people in red states. Laws in some red states about “pushing transgenderism on minors” could theoretically be interpreted so broadly that if you post information or supportive messages on a public forum and a minor in a red state happens to see it, they could try to come after you for it - but that would probably be found unconstitutional.
Using secure lines of communication for routine, everyday stuff helps keep those lines secure by generating more chaff they’d have to sort through, as well as familiarizing yourself with it and getting more people on board. However, you shouldn’t scatter to the wind preemptively and self-censor, beyond just not fed-posting.
I have the RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression and I will not waive it for Trump or anyone else. Without it, there is no United States.
Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the oligarchy. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck this fear, and fuck advance compliance.
I serve no fucking king.
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Exercise that right, go camping, free helicopter rides. Sounds fun!
I’d construe that as a threat.
Less likely if we are gun owners
Gun rights are for everyone. Unironically everyone capable of responsibly owning a gun should. But you won’t get magically good with one if you never train.
If you have a friend who already has guns ask to join them on the range to learn the basics. If not find a class to learn safe gun handling, then go to the range to practice and build skill. Guns are a serious and powerful tool, but like most serious and powerful tools when you use them safely you have a ton of fun too!
From there if you really want to be as effective as you can learning how to move and communicate well is the next step. And that can be practiced via video games, airsoft, hiking etc.
Only if people collectiely excercise that right by forming a militia, otherwise they’ll just raid your houses individually one by one and take your guns.
Ironically, its less likely for people who aren’t right-wing to have guns. Blue states, and especially Blue cities make it so difficult for people to get a gun due to all the permits you have to obtain from the police department, who would just find bs reasons to deny your permit because you know, pigs be pigs.
Lots of states allow private sales with no background checks required. People should see if they live in/near one.
If so hop on mewe, or some other social site, grab some cash and get you one! Gun shows are awesome for this too.
If you have a gun and they raid your hosue, they now have a legal right to kill you no matter what you do since you are now a threat with deadly force.
Sure and they can just as easily shoot you no matter what and say it was a phone, you were reaching for something etc
Correct but would having gun lower or increase your chances at getting killed tho
That’s the question here
In a house? With cops raiding it? If you grabbed a gun to defend yourself odds are you would be killed. If it comes to that particular scenario, gun or not, your odds weren’t that great to begin with
A persecution fetish is a hard drug for gun owners, among other idiots.
You’re right. We should trust the police to protect us. After all, it’s not like our police departments are filled with right-wingers who have a track record of regularly murdering innocent civilians or anything…
…Oh wait, that’s riiiiight…
(Of course, I realise arguing with an American about guns is a fool’s errand but sometime you’ve got to try.)
OK so hypothetically let’s suppose a right-wing cop has decided to add you to his list of murdered innocent civilians, has parked his car on the boundary of your house and is walking towards you.
At what point exactly do you get your gun out and shoot first? Spell it out please, I’d really like to understand how this plays out.
Please include the response of his partner who is still in the car, what that partner radios back to base, and describe the multiple responses of those who will now respond to the reports of a cop-killer. Explain how you think the resulting siege will play out and describe exactly how you win this scenario (where “win” is defined in terms of you living and not going to jail).
As if the deterrent effect is from the possibility of suicide by cop instead of, idk, a critical mass within a community of armed people. It’s not like around 2019/20 we saw, firsthand, that when violence against cops increased their willingness to make frivolous stops decreased. But please, continue strawmanning this as some weird scenario where people are saying that suicide by cop will stop oppression.
Ok dude when they come to take you from your home and put you in the camps I’m sure you will be happy you are unarmed and defenseless.
I love seeing little clones parroting the same anti-gun BS they’ve been spooned for the last 3 decades like fascists aren’t seizing power right now.
No kidding. I mean, this is finally the moment that Madison predicted two centuries ago! A fascist has seized control over the government, and is illegally detaining people. Rise up my US gun-lovers! Rise against the dictators and claim control of your country from…
Oh wait, you’re the ones who got him elected? Nevermind.
You can’t expect those on the opposite political spectrum to do stuff for you
Well, I think that it would be if not impossible, then extremely difficult to do that, as the amount of people they’d have to catch would be gigantic.
But I think it’s best to be prepared for a lot of social media bans and restrictions. (Think China or Saudi Arabia)
And if you happen to partake in protests, do NOT confess to it online. This is especially important if you’re doing anything illegal, but looking at what the situation is over there, I’d say that it applies to peaceful protesting as well. Take care.
I don’t see them coming for all of us. It’s just not practical to arrest everyone who complains.
It all comes down to other characteristics:
- are you someone influential or high profile they can make an example of, to promote fear?
- do you have any connection to another country, no matter how tenuous, where they can use this as an excuse to deport?
- are you part of another demographic bias they want to persecute, such as lgbt, where they can use this as an excuse to legally persecute?
are you someone influential or high profile they can make an example of, to promote fear?
I’m just a nobody. No wikipedia pages or anything like that.
do you have any connection to another country, no matter how tenuous, where they can use this as an excuse to deport?
I was born in PRC. The US government could frame me as a “CCP Spy”, but like dude, I’m the most anti-CCP ethnic Chinese person in the US. I’m honesely afraid to getting deported then I’ll have to explain to the CCP about all those Anti-CCP stuff I said. (I’m end up in prison).
Like it doesn’t even make sense for me to be a “CCP Spy”, they literally tried arrest my mother and tried to terminate me (I was the second child that my mother had during the One Child Policy). Why would I ever help a party that almost prevented my existence?
are you part of another demographic bias they want to persecute, such as lgbt, where they can use this as an excuse to legally persecute?
I’m not really LGBT, but I really have no desire to seek a relationship so I think I’m just asexual/aromantic which the Magats would probably consider a “sexual deviant” or whatever bs deogratory label they wanna make, but like I could lie and say I’m straight.
I’m Chinese American, so, judging by the “China virus” racist rhetoric, orange cheeto doesn’t like people like me. 👀
, I’m the most anti-CCP ethnic Chinese person in the US. I’m honesely afraid to getting deported then I’ll have to explain to the CCP about all those Anti-CCP stuff I said. (I’m end up in prison).
Hating authority do be like that. I do respect the position tho…
Some people simp america and hate China.
Some hate us but love China…
But the correct answers is both are brutal regimes enabling exploitation of the working people by the parasite class!
Fuk 'em all
Yep. You too might be a criminal, gangster, drug dealing, illegal immigrant that should be deported. If China won’t take you back, we can dump you somewhere else.
I’m not going to travel to the US just in case they triangulate my ID. Haven’t said anything terribly bad about USA but still, why risk it.
