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    The potential side effects of ketamine include dissociative experiences that may lead to confusion or impaired motor coordination, cognitive disturbances, and, with repeated misuse, the risk of developing a substance use disorder.

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    If I was insuring Tesla or their showrooms in any way, I would see to get rid of this contract as fast as possible.

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      I wouldn’t. That would be covered under the force majeure clause, so no need to pay anything to Tesla, but you can increase premiums by a lot and earn crap loads doing absolutely nothing.

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    What does protesting in front of Tesla achieve, it’s a private company, just boycotting their products is enough to hurt them, they need to protest the goverment goons and get that cunt impeached and save democracy

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      Elon hates it. Elon is a part of our government. Our government is buying Tesla to prop him up. If you just crawled out of a fucking rock there’s your answer.

      Here’s another answer for you after decades of seeing assholes outside of a Planned Parenthood. Fuck you if you think people shouldn’t protest outside of Tesla.

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        Even if tesla implodes and files for bankruptcy tomorrow. It’s still not gonna save your country

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          Any given act of protest isn’t enough to save the country. But multiple acts building on each other will. It’s about continuing to apply pressure, one step at a time, until the fascist regime topples.

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            There are a lot of European keyboard warriors that don’t seem to know much about America (other than social media) that keep trying to call out Americans for not “protesting right.”

            It shows that they have no clue about the size of the country or the fact that the shock and awe that started this administration knocked everyone on their heels and only now are we starting to mobilize.

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              I try to stay out of American politics because I get that my views are probably skewed being in Europe, but I do see his approval ratings close to and sometimes above 50% on certain areas.

              Without telling you what to do about it, I must admit it scares me to think that there are millions of people agreeing with what he’s doing. It feels like the US is a preassure cooker only just getting started, slowly inching towards a disastrous explosion.

              What are the realistic potential outcomes of everything going on?

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          Maybe not, but when someone is strangling you, it feels really good to stick your thumb in their eye.

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      It gets Elon super mad which is funny. Also what do people who are not in the United States supposed to do? Protest in front of their own countries governmental buildings? What’s that going to achieve.

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    There have also been an uptick in incidents of arson, vandalism, and violence against Tesla showrooms that, while unrelated to the protests, have led to Musk and President Donald Trump labeling them “domestic terrorism."

    It’s perfectly reasonable to think that at least some of these could be false flag opperations orchestrated by the Trump administration to give them cover to arrest innocent people and eventually declare martial law. The more that possibility is part of the mainstream conversation, the more wind it takes out of their sails towards accomplishing those goals.

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      Very accommodating terrorists. I don’t think setting fire to things can be considered an act of terrorism. At worst it’s arson.

      It’s not like anyone’s even been injured.

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      Imagine invoking Martian law (pun intended, because of the Alien act) due to someone bullying a billionaire by burning their cars.

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      I wish the stock price would just collapse already along with organic consumer demand for the cars themselves evaporating into nothing so it could whither and die a natural death.

      As much as I hate Musk, I’m not a fan of seeing property damaged. Not because I love the property, but because it’s too easy to leverage it as terrorism by a regime that has a hard-on for labeling anything it doesn’t like as such. Consumer collapse and bankruptcy would be beautiful to behold.

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          I have a feeling, even if the World Trade Center had been completely depopulated on the morning of September 11th and the hijacked aircraft only had jihadists aboard, the event would have probably still been declared an act of terrorism.

          The determination of what constitutes terrorism isn’t for us normies to make. The people in power get to have that particular privilege, regardless of what we feel.

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            Peeaonally, I think terrorism requires a certain scale of either malice or destruction. Flying jetliners into an empty icon of the country? Definitely terrorism. Crashing a little Cessna into a National Forest? Probably not terrorism.

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        I don’t like damage to property cause I’m scared of my tyrannical government

        lol ok, bet doing nothing will work. Maybe try appeasement?

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          Strategic dissent is what matters. I doubt things would have been improved if targeted groups in Germany had violently rioted and smashed Mercedes, Benzs, and Volkswagens (or whatever the main rides were at the time). I mean, the Reichstag Fire was the perfect excuse to accelerate the tyranny (and it was probably an inside job!). Just the same, smashing cars probably won’t endear the generally-docile public to the cause. I would say most people (i.e. the support force necessary for widespread change) don’t want to be associated with violence. It might win some over, but it’ll polarize others, exacerbating the situation and possibly creating Rittenhouse militias to evolve into gestapos.

          Sure, once the ruling evil exists in earnest and the rule of law is declared fully dead, clandestine resistance saboteurs may be necessary, but they’ll aim for strategic targets with a high gain of hurt laid upon the tyrannical regime. They won’t expose themselves to frivolous targets like individual electric cars. If anything, they’ll target infrastructure and try to make it look like government incompetence to incite people against those in power.

          This gray time is confusing and scary, by design. Extreme action just probably won’t elicit the desired effect right now. Figuring out a way to inceptually make The People attribute their various pains and grievances to the actions and personalities in power should be the goal.

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            Just the same, smashing cars probably won’t endear the generally-docile public to the cause. I would say most people (i.e. the support force necessary for widespread change) don’t want to be associated with violence.

            Which is why we should be considering the real possibility that these are false flag attacks. Want to turn the general populace against peaceful protesters? Engineer false flag attacks that make the protesters appear violent. Now you can arrest peaceful protesters and the general populace will turn and look the other way.

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          Pretty sure property damage is one of the options to attack a tyrannical government. Assassinations too. At least its options people have used, not sure exactly how effective it was but the nazis lost in the end.

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    I’m worried about the next Rittenhouse. Stay safe out there and watch out for the “good guy with a gun”

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      I’m sick of worrying about being killed over my freedom of speech in this so called free country and I think I’d rather die by calling out some fascist than cancer or living under tyranny anyways.

      None of you are immortal so figure it the fuck out.

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      I love when someone brings up Rittenhouse because I dated someone who went to high school with him, so I know quite a bit about him.

      Turns out all of the signs were there and his mom encouraged that type of stuff :)

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        They’re often are signs. I was at school with someone that ended up being a murderer. He was a super weird kid, his father wasn’t around and his mother was an alcoholic so he never really had a great upbringing, schools response to all this was to get him suspended whenever he acted up.

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            Short answer : No

            Long answer : Bullet proof is a misnomer, everything, even the air, will eventually stop a bullet. You can get a suit with ballistic fiber which will work against small and slow calibers. Keep in mind that the damage a bullet does is more than just perforating your clothing. Body armor has a rating system telling you what kind of rounds it can mitigate, although most rifle rounds require some sort of rigid plate to prevent penetration and also dissipate the impact over a large surface area. A thin, flexible bullet resistant suit or jacket is not going to do either of those things very well.

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            You mean the ones that completely negate impact damage? I think those would violate physics.

            You are supposed to be able to get flexible bulletproof armor that isn’t made of Kevlar but some kind of non-Newtonian gel, but I don’t know how good it is.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      This is such an odd attitude for him as well because oil extraction is expensive and slow. By the time he starts to see any profit from this his term is almost going to be up. But then again I suppose he is an idiot.

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        I wasn’t even trying to talk about him or his intentions. I just wanted to use a mutated version of his slogan to cheer on the Tesla destroyers.

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      Disclaimer - not an electromagnetic scientist wizard

      My understanding is that EMPs are more of a concern for the tiny electronics on computers versus relatively large motors or batteries. So, an electric vehicle is still at risk, but I don’t think it’d be any more at risk than any ICE car that’s all computerized anyways.

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        It would probably mess up the controlling computer though.

        Occasionally cars get hit by lightning and that usually causes a lot of errors and glitches and sometimes it totally writes off the vehicle.

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        From what I understand, the vulnerability of a chip has to do with the operating voltage of the chip. As chips have become smaller, and more efficient, they have also become less vulnerable to EMP. Higher voltage components are more vulnerable, like the motors, but I don’t think you are going to get a man-portable device that will damage them. Maybe one that would fit in a vehicle, but you would have to be very close (inverse square law) and you would have to find a way to not fry your own vehicle.

        Not a chip designer, nor an electrician, if anyone with more credibility wants to jump in here, please do.

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        With all the touch screens and computer controlled door handles I wouldn‘t bet on a Tesla in this showdown.

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          thats one of the many downsides of making everything computer

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        Nuke type EMPs are a threat to very long wires, like miles long ones used to transmit power. The blast causes a ripple in the earths magnetic field that induces current over huge distances. But I don’t know what a more handheld device would affect.

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          Electric motors work by inducing a magnetic field with coils of wire, so I’m sure a strong enough EMP would disrupt it temporarily, but I don’t know if it would meaningfully damage anything after the EMP ceased.

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            They’re made specifically to deal with high electromagnetic flux, so it definitely wouldn’t hurt them long term. Best bet would be something higher frequency to mess with the computers.

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          In all seriousness microwaves are the #1 leading cause of death for hobby electronics people, be careful around them and know what you’re doing before you open it.

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            I didn’t realize they were the #1 killer. Most of them via electrocution of the HV capacitor, I would imagine?

            15ish years ago I got lucky and didn’t kill myself on the first one I ever cracked open. I managed to become marginally more intelligent and after poking around in it decided it’d be smart to research the art of microwave dismantling, which led to a minor anxiety attack and cold sweats when I realized how stupid I had been.

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              Yep. That HV capacitor will turn you into orbital bacon with a quickness, and it keeps a charge for way longer than you’d ever think was realistic. In the same vein as “assume every gun is loaded”, also assume every capacitor is charged.

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                I think I even read it can gradually spontaneously self-charge if left alone long enough with the terminals insulated from each other. I don’t know if that’s actually true (it would seem to be a sort of Maxwell’s Daemon at that point), but yeah, best to not take chances.

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                  They do charge over time when terminals are not shorted, but it’s not like they go from discharged to spontaneously fully charged in seconds. It’s a slow creep that happens over an extended time period.

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                Hahaha, funny you mention that. I was this close to trying to open an old CRT set many years ago when that little voice in my head said, hey, maybe look up what happens when you do that. I decided I didn’t need to go through with it.

                That being said, DLP sets are my absolute favorite to dig into. So many awesome optical components, mirrors, and cooling fans inside. I didn’t find anything that seemed too dangerous, either.

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          It’s quite dangerous, the magnetron can kill very easily. There’s this youtuber called styropyro who’s done some really cool stuff with them though

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            He’s a treasure. The inside of a microwave is insane in its casual dangers. Like that HV capacitor, or, more insidiously, the beryllium insulator that can cause berrylliosis if broken and inhaled.

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              Sounds like you don’t even have to do anything to make it dangerous. Heck, let’s just chuck broken microwaves at the Teslas.

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      For cars, you’re gonna need something a bit bigger. Large coil, capacitor bank to generate a static field and some high explosives to disrupt that field to give the pulse. It fries the wires in a car. Single use only.

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        You’re going to need some really big conventional explosives to affect an EMF in any way. Not clear on the math, but at that point, blowing up the vehicle with a smaller amount of explosives would be much more efficient.

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        Sounds like an awesome YT video for backyard scientist or action labs or alpha phoenix or definitely styro pyro

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          “Sorry but I only have video about the construction process. All the cameras I’ve set up got fried when I’ve set this thing off, including the memory cards. It even messed up the magnetic tape in the old school relic we had as a backup. With that out of the way, let’s get into the construction. This episode is sponsored by …”

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    I wonder if we will finally get a visible notion of the inaction in protests in the US compared to the rest of the world.

    I bet non-US protests will average at 2000 people per, but protests in the US will total 2000 people.

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      Of course it helps that the police in not America probably aren’t going to do anything about the protests. Other than show up and watch.